► Photothread: French Equipment in German Service

[Jose85]

...Citroen T45 (ZiS in front? not much to be seen)

and now...
really horrible quality photo, but looks like 2 examples of Renault AGR "fourgon TSF"? There was some discussion about the type of use by Germans. Wonder if that long pole belongs to the truck?
The third car could be Citroen T45 with a field made box?

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[Jose85]

Renault AGK, the third one Renault AGC?

Peugeot DK5J

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another Peugeot, some 02 based van

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[Sturm78]

Hi all,

Another image of a unknown Berliet truck....

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Sturm78

[SIS 5]

Hi Jose,

thank You very much for posting so interesting pics. Here my comment to the first series of pics You posted:
First pic: yes, the first truck is a Russian ZiS.
Third pic: You wrote, that the trucks look like 2 examples of Renault AGR "fourgon TSF". I think You are right: TSF is the abbreviation for "transmission sans fil" = wireless tranmission). In the book ""L´automobile sous l´uniforme" by Francois Vauvillier is the information, that Renault built 95 body stile type AGR equipped with SIF (Société industrielle de télégraphie sans fils) in the winter 1939 - 1940 for the French air force.
The Peugeot van on the last pic could be the type SK 3 for 800 kg.

Regards

Bert

[the Rocketman]

Hi Jose

Your posting 3152
the last vehicle after the Renault AGK in line is a Borgward 1,5 ton lieferwagen

Greetings Bert

[ilfil]

Hi all,

Another image of a unknown Berliet truck....

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Sturm78

VSFD model it is, IMHO.

[Jose85]

Hello,
and Thanks!

Licorne Rivoli, this took me a while to identify...

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[Jose85]

Renault something-quatre fourgon

Citroen T23

Renault AGC

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[Maxschnauzer]

Renault something-quatre fourgon
renaultfourgonparis1941.jpg

Hi jose,
Your fourgon looks based on the 1939 Vivaquatre BDH-3 Berline chassis:

[SIS 5]

Hi Jose, hi Max,

I have it under the designation type AFP. Here pic of this vehicle.

Best regards

Bert

[Maxschnauzer]

Very good, Bert.
It was advertised as a 1,000 kilogs Camionnette Utile:

[SIS 5]

Hi Max,

thank You very much for the advetisement. I didn´t know that this vehicle had a load capacity of 1000 kg.

Best regards

Bert

[Maxschnauzer]

Yes, it seems small for a one tonner. I also find this interesting; though it's hard to read maybe you can help me make sense out of these numbers:

[SIS 5]

Hi Max,

that´s really interesting. Thanks for posting.
Here my explanation to these types:
AGZ: payload 250 kg (two times mentioned)
AGS: weight - 1000 kg / payload - 500 kg
AFP: weight - 1500 kg / payload - 1000 kg

Best regards

Bert

[Maxschnauzer]

Thanks, Bert.
That's pretty much what I assumed for the last two, but I couldn't make any sense out of the two 250's.