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Post by Victor » 22 Dec 2005 15:01

Are the sources for the last 4 images the same with the first one?

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Post by Kim Sung » 22 Dec 2005 15:19

Victor wrote:Are the sources for the last 4 images the same with the first one?

Yes, Victor.

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Post by Jan-Hendrik » 03 Jan 2006 08:52

I found a little mysterium in Igaorns post on page 2 where tries to point out the tank strength of 6.Panzerarmee ...

Well , why does he count sPzAbt. FHH ( former 503 ) there as they where no part of 6.Panzerarmee or took part in "Frühlingserwachen" ???

They where in the Gran area at this time 8O

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Post by Igorn » 03 Jan 2006 09:28

Jan-Hendrik wrote:I found a little mysterium in Igaorns post on page 2 where tries to point out the tank strength of 6.Panzerarmee ...

Well , why does he count sPzAbt. FHH ( former 503 ) there as they where no part of 6.Panzerarmee or took part in "Frühlingserwachen" ???

They where in the Gran area at this time 8O Jan-Hendrik


Where exactly did I say in my post that sPz Abt. “Feldherrnhalle" was part of 6. Panzerarmee? On page 2 of this thread I posted Numeric strength of Heersgruppe Sud, dated 6 March 1945. Can you see the differense between 6. Panzerarmee and Heersgruppe Süd? Or do you deny that sPz Abt. “Feldherrnhalle" was part of Heersgruppe Süd? :wink:

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Post by Jan-Hendrik » 03 Jan 2006 09:38

OK , overread that . But why the tank strength of HGr. Süd while we are talking about "Frühlingserwachen" & 6.Panzerarmee ?

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Post by Igorn » 03 Jan 2006 09:50

Jan-Hendrik wrote:OK , overread that . But why the tank strength of HGr. Süd while we are talking about "Frühlingserwachen" & 6.Panzerarmee ?

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Because we are talking here about the events of the Balaton Lake Operation (German offensive + Soviet counteroffensive)and Vienna operation, which resulted in the defeat of the Heersgruppe Süd (including 6. Armee and 6. Panzerarmee) in Hungary & Austria. :wink:

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Post by richardrli » 03 Jan 2006 13:40

Was this truly the last German offensive operation in WWII?

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Frühlingserwachen

Post by FRANCY RITTER » 12 Jan 2006 16:47

HI!!

Various Germans tanks pics....Frühlingserwachen operation.

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http://wilk.wpk.p.lodz.pl/~whatfor/pzkpfw_iv_j.htm

http://www.aviapress.com/viewonekit.htm?VMA-008

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Post by Kelvin » 06 Jan 2009 18:00

Mark V. wrote:
Erich wrote:the new English translation will have about 100 photos and more text than the Munin verlag edition, so who knws.
Well Erich, according to J.J.Fedorowicz Pub.
Drama Between Budapest and Vienna, The Final Fighting of the 6. Panzer-Armee, 1945 by Georg Maier with 475+ text pages (conservative estimate as the book is still being laid out), nearly 1,000 footnotes, 16 pages of photos, 124 appendices and a separate 32-page full-color map book.
this doesn't seem to be the case, though it would be great.

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What kind of this 124 appendics, including detailed German manpower and equipment holding in these campaign ?

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Post by Otto Skorzeny SSLAH » 14 Apr 2019 09:47

Does anyone know the route of the retreat after the battle,ie;Sopron ,Szombathely? Towards Vienna.
Were there battles on the way?

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Post by Art » 14 Apr 2019 13:40

Otto Skorzeny SSLAH wrote:
14 Apr 2019 09:47
Were there battles on the way?
Yes, quite intense and bloody:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vienna_Offensive

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Post by Otto Skorzeny SSLAH » 22 Apr 2019 17:13

Hi Art,
Many thanks for your reply.
But the link you shared is more about Vienna and not about the battles involved while retreating from Hungary.
I have found one that happened,it is known that at that time the SS-Panzergrenadier Regiment "Thule", occupied a defensive line from the southern sector of the town of Pusztavám, east of town of Mór, east of Csókakö, and northeast of the town of Söred.
I am looking to detect for artifacts from these battle sites,i will be visiting this area when i have found out more info.

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Re: Operation Spring Awakening

Post by Cult Icon » 22 Apr 2019 18:18

Klaus K. posted an amazon link about an upcoming book on the Vienna offensive. I don't recall what the title was. in the Waffen SS Panzer unit histories, the period of mid- March-mid April 1945 was exceptionally devastating for their units.

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Re: Operation Spring Awakening

Post by WorldwarBill » 22 May 2019 17:41

I didn't see Klaus K.'s link so I can't be sure, but my new book is due out within weeks from Helion and Casemate. Killing Hitler's Reich, The Battle for Austria, 1945. It is essentially the story of Army Group South after leaving Hungary, the text reached close to 300k words.

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