Beheadings in the Third Reich

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Re: Beheadings in the Third Reich

Post by Pete26 » 19 Jul 2019 04:27

Thank you for an interesting post. I do not think that Stadelheim prison modern record keeping policy applies in any way to the Third Reich era, which is a unique period in German history.

Can you tell us if the name of your great grandfather appears on this memorial tablet? The tablet lists more than 90 names of people executed in Stadelheim prison during the Third Reich era, and most of these names are those of Czech nationals. Click on the image to make it larger.

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The youngest person officially guillotined by Nazis

Post by Pete26 » 19 Jul 2019 04:33

Recently I discovered the following guillotine execution record from Ploetzensee prison. If the birth and execution dates are correct, the victim was only 15 years old at the time of his execution and he was executed for the crime of arson. If you remember the case of Valerian Wrobel who was guillotined at the age of 17 in Hamburg prison on 25 August 1942 for an arson attempt, this death sentence appears to be also of the same origin, i.e using the "People's Pest Regulation" law to pass a sentence of death. This young individual is listed among executed Czech nationals, and may well be the youngest person officially guillotined by Nazis.
(A person as young as 14 years could be officially sentenced to death and judicially executed in Nazi Germany).


The execution record is as follows:


Name: Kurt Walter Schmidt

Employment Status: Unemployed

Date and place of birth: 15 June 1926, Brandov, Czech Republic

Date of death sentence: 20 January 1942, sentenced by People's Court for arson

Date of execution by guillotine: 27 March 1942

Source of the execution record: Gedenkstätte Plötzensee
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A list of Czechoslovak nationals executed in Ploetzensee prison

Post by Pete26 » 19 Jul 2019 04:56

http://old.ustrcr.cz/cs/popraveni-plotzensee

https://translate.google.com/translate? ... plotzensee

Most of the victims on the list were guillotined, only a few were hanged. The list identifies the method of execution for each victim. While most victims on the list have been executed for resistance activity and other political reasons, some were executed for common crimes, such as burglary or theft. There are several cases of people sentenced to death by using the "People's Pest Regulation".

Note: Prior to April 1943, when a new guillotine execution site was created in Prague Pankrac prison, Czechoslovak nationals sentenced to death were typically transported either to Berlin Ploetzensee prison or to Munchner Platz Dresden execution sites, where they were guillotined.
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The White Rose: Faces of a Friendship

Post by Pete26 » 19 Jul 2019 06:04

There are quite a few unique photos in this presentation on White Rose:

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/ ... e-Rose.pdf

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Re: Beheadings in the Third Reich

Post by history1 » 19 Jul 2019 20:05

I guess you mean the "Volksschädlingsverordnung (correct name: Verordnung gegen Volksschädlinge") with "People´s Pest Regulation"?
https://tinyurl.com/y2ldk9yn
Not less important was in many cases the Heimtückegesetz:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heimt%C3%BCckegesetz
Did a search for "Volksschädlinge" on anno.onb.ac.at for 1944/45 and found this two as youngest victims:
1. 16.5 year old Alois Hütter from Linz, son of a deserter which commited suicide, and convicted for theft:
Source: http://anno.onb.ac.at/cgi-content/anno? ... ch&seite=3
2. 17 year old Roland Tonnoir, a foreigner who commited theft and burglary with a gang.
Source: http://anno.onb.ac.at/cgi-content/anno ... ch&seite=3

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Re: Beheadings in the Third Reich

Post by heraldika » 19 Jul 2019 20:44

Pete26:

Thank you for reply :-) My great-grandfather was buried in Perlacher Forst Cemetery where this memorial tablet comes from. His name stands there: "Hladeček Karl".

Today, I asked the Bayerisches Nationalmuseum in Munich if they have in their ownership the guillotine from this https://www.welt.de/geschichte/zweiter- ... choll.html. Because it could be the apparatus my great-grandfather passed on under.

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Re: Beheadings in the Third Reich

Post by Pete26 » 20 Jul 2019 14:59

heraldika wrote:
19 Jul 2019 20:44
Pete26:

Thank you for reply :-) My great-grandfather was buried in Perlacher Forst Cemetery where this memorial tablet comes from. His name stands there: "Hladeček Karl".

Today, I asked the Bayerisches Nationalmuseum in Munich if they have in their ownership the guillotine from this https://www.welt.de/geschichte/zweiter- ... choll.html. Because it could be the apparatus my great-grandfather passed on under.
Yes, this is the guillotine used in Stadelheim prison for executions during WWII. It was one of six Mannhardt style guillotines produced in 1860's. These guillotines were already about 80 years old when used during WWII. Now the Stadelheim guillotine is over 150 years old. And the executioner was Johann Reichhart.
The guillotine was located in a separate one story building. This original execution building in Stadelheim prison no longer exists as it was converted into an automotive shop in the late 1950's and then demolished in the early 1960's to make room for the new prison cell block construction. If you search this site, there are several authentic photos of the execution building exterior and also some interior photos after WWII.

Here is a photo of Karel Hladeček:

Karel Hladeček.jpg

https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karel_Hladeček

https://translate.google.com/translate? ... de%C4%8Dek
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Stadelheim execution building

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Oldřich Hlaváč

Post by Pete26 » 22 Jul 2019 03:55

Oldřich Hlaváč.jpg

Dentist Oldřich Hlaváč was guillotined in Berlin Ploetzensee prison on 18 December 1942.


http://www.lks-casopis.cz/clanek/doktor ... pisovatel/
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Die Rheinland-Pfälzische fallbeil

Post by Pete26 » 22 Jul 2019 04:38

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This fallbeil, also known as Mainz Fallbeil was never used to execute anyone and is presently displayed in the Koblenz Museum.

https://www.swr.de/swraktuell/rheinland ... p-100.html


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Re: The youngest person officially guillotined by Nazis

Post by history1 » 22 Jul 2019 06:00

Pete26 wrote:
19 Jul 2019 04:33
[...] Valerian Wrobel who was guillotined at the age of 17 in Hamburg prison on 25 August 1942 for an arson attempt,
Attempt? There was a fire which needed to be extinguished. One can hardly speak of "attempt" then. It´s irrelevenat that not the entire barn and farm buildings burnt down.
Pete26 wrote:
19 Jul 2019 04:33
(A person as young as 14 years could be officially sentenced to death and judicially executed in Nazi Germany).
[...]
Source?

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Re: Beheadings in the Third Reich

Post by heraldika » 23 Jul 2019 16:14

Thanks for your treatise, Pete26.

I still wait for a reply from the Bayerisches Nationalmuseum in Munich if the guillotine is still in their ownership.

Wiki page you quoted is my work ;-)


Pete26 wrote:
20 Jul 2019 14:59
heraldika wrote:
19 Jul 2019 20:44
Pete26:

Thank you for reply :-) My great-grandfather was buried in Perlacher Forst Cemetery where this memorial tablet comes from. His name stands there: "Hladeček Karl".

Today, I asked the Bayerisches Nationalmuseum in Munich if they have in their ownership the guillotine from this https://www.welt.de/geschichte/zweiter- ... choll.html. Because it could be the apparatus my great-grandfather passed on under.
Yes, this is the guillotine used in Stadelheim prison for executions during WWII. It was one of six Mannhardt style guillotines produced in 1860's. These guillotines were already about 80 years old when used during WWII. Now the Stadelheim guillotine is over 150 years old. And the executioner was Johann Reichhart.
The guillotine was located in a separate one story building. This original execution building in Stadelheim prison no longer exists as it was converted into an automotive shop in the late 1950's and then demolished in the early 1960's to make room for the new prison cell block construction. If you search this site, there are several authentic photos of the execution building exterior and also some interior photos after WWII.

Here is a photo of Karel Hladeček:


Karel Hladeček.jpg


https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karel_Hladeček

https://translate.google.com/translate? ... de%C4%8Dek

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Re: Beheadings in the Third Reich

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Last guillotine executions in Hamburg

Post by Pete26 » 25 Jul 2019 03:36

The last guillotine executions in Hamburg were carried out on 9 May 1949. Robert Amelung (age 29) and Peter Steinhauer (age 39) were guillotined for the crime of murder. The murder victim was Peter Nikolitsch (age 34). Marie Mohr was also sentenced to death, but was later acquitted.

The executions were most likely carried out by Friedrich Hehr who continued guillotine executions in post war Germany in Wolfenbuettel and Hamburg until abolition of the death penalty in 1949. It is not clear what guillotine was used for these executions, as the Haumburg guillotine was shipped to Dierbergen-Butzow prison in late 1944. Was this guillotine shipped back to Hamburg after WW II ended? The old wooden guillotine previously used in Hamburg was not functional any more.

Robert Amelung.jpg

Peter Steinhauer.jpg
Marie Mohr.jpg
Peter Nikolitsch.jpg

https://www.mopo.de/hamburg/historisch/ ... n-32265134
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Re: Beheadings in the Third Reich

Post by history1 » 25 Jul 2019 06:45

Is there a reason to ignore my posts? I´m not going hours through archive material for that!

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