British tanks at Gazala 1942

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British tanks at Gazala 1942

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Post by diciassette2000 » 14 Aug 2019, 16:22

Hello everyone
I would be grateful if anyone could indicate the quantities and types of tanks used by the 1st British Armored Division during the Battle of Gazala (May 26-June 28, 1942)
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Maurizio

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Post by Dili » 15 Aug 2019, 20:15

Maurizio i have this for Gazala but no date or details and not specific to 1 Armored:

110 Matilda II
257 Crusader
166 Valentine
219 Stuart
242 Grant


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Post by Alanmccoubrey » 15 Aug 2019, 21:25

Did you try a search on this forum before you asked ?

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Post by diciassette2000 » 15 Aug 2019, 22:21

Alanmcoubrey........DURING the battle.......date/number/unit/.....this i want.......if possible....naturally.......but I thing an hard mission......
Dili thankyou ....
All the best
Maurizio

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Post by Alanmccoubrey » 16 Aug 2019, 10:28

diciassette2000 wrote:
15 Aug 2019, 22:21
Alanmcoubrey........DURING the battle.......date/number/unit/.....this i want.......if possible....naturally.......but I thing an hard mission......
Dili thankyou ....
All the best
Maurizio
Sorry that I wasted your time then, I won't bother again.
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Post by diciassette2000 » 16 Aug 2019, 17:07

I have been a historical researcher for about 30 years and I have been dealing with historical research on the theme of North African theater for at least 20 years. In collaborating with historians of all countries and backgrounds, it has never happened to me to be misunderstood or addressed with strange formulas of threat ... if someone wants to help me do it, if someone does not want to do not do it and also delete what he thinks and if you think you could do it ... I only needed a clarification on the dates and on the British armored units used during the battle of Gazala (the British, Italian and English historical journals are not very exhaustive on the matter) because in my research that period is obscure ..... however, if the question is not appreciated or can cause problems I will turn to others to get answers ...... of course you are very susceptible in this forum .......
All the best
Maurizio

The steps......(only a bit)
WO 169/3861
WO 169/4210
WO 169/4214
WO 169/4479
WO 169/4481
WO 169/4230 (part)
WO 169/4266
SME cartella 4412/42
SME cartella 4419/42
SME PA 123 (Nordafrica)

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Maurizio

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Post by Urmel » 19 Aug 2019, 00:12

Um can't we all just get along?
The enemy had superiority in numbers, his tanks were more heavily armoured, they had larger calibre guns with nearly twice the effective range of ours, and their telescopes were superior. 5 RTR 19/11/41

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Post by diciassette2000 » 19 Aug 2019, 09:26

Urmel....
Yes we can, but obviously we are not all in agreement. In thirty years of activity I have helped many researchers for free and for pure passion but obviously my philanthropy has not paid ..... if to ask for help on a topic you take these answers it is better to leave it alone ..... a (Urmel) congratulations for the beautiful web page ... very thorough and sophisticated, perhaps a little lacking from the point of view .... Italian ...
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Post by Urmel » 19 Aug 2019, 10:36

Ciao Maurizio

Grazie! I am afraid I don't have that much by way of Italian original sources yet, although I keep working on it. There's quite a bit on the Regia Marina, but much less on the Regia Aeronautica and the Esercito I must admit. I am afraid I cannot help you right now with your request, but I will have another look through my files.
The enemy had superiority in numbers, his tanks were more heavily armoured, they had larger calibre guns with nearly twice the effective range of ours, and their telescopes were superior. 5 RTR 19/11/41

The CRUSADER Project - The Winter Battle 1941/42

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Post by diciassette2000 » 19 Aug 2019, 12:33

Thankyou in advance.....if you want I have a situation for Regia Aereonautica (18-19 november 1941) but you phreaps have it (it's on vol2 Sme) . I have also some note for it that i find in SME archive Rome.......Tell me if you want it and were I can attached the file....
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Post by Dili » 20 Aug 2019, 23:43

The 2 Santoro volumes are online at Avia.it. Not as detailed as the Chris Shores Air Wat but have the statistics.

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British tanks at Gazala 1942

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Post by endopsodono » 07 Oct 2019, 17:30

It seems to me, you are mistaken

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Post by Urmel » 08 Oct 2019, 16:29

??
The enemy had superiority in numbers, his tanks were more heavily armoured, they had larger calibre guns with nearly twice the effective range of ours, and their telescopes were superior. 5 RTR 19/11/41

The CRUSADER Project - The Winter Battle 1941/42

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Post by Urmel » 08 Feb 2020, 22:51

Here’s 22 Armoured Brigade.
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The enemy had superiority in numbers, his tanks were more heavily armoured, they had larger calibre guns with nearly twice the effective range of ours, and their telescopes were superior. 5 RTR 19/11/41

The CRUSADER Project - The Winter Battle 1941/42

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