Are you saying these were all functional tanks? Which way was the train going - towards the front or back to a repair yard?
Regards
Tom
Are you saying these were all functional tanks? Which way was the train going - towards the front or back to a repair yard?
Regards11 September 1944
Additional recovery sections REME attached to Returned Veh Pk to remove vehs to beaches for evacuation to UK. An alteration by REME of classification caused a great deal of additional work.
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12 October 1944
REME again altered classification of vehs in [16 Vehicle Company RAOC] RVP.
Please read through the thread, as the link is already in this thread.Thanks for these figures. I'd be grateful if you could provide a source for them. Do they go on into the autumn?
Regards
Tom
Richard Anderson wrote: ↑19 Oct 2019, 16:54Uh, guys? This is all fun and all to read, but if you really want to do an analysis of German tanks lost and damaged, the Italian Campaign data set for 10. AOK is more complete and extensive...and they counted unit "losses" as well as the usual three categories.
Just sayin'. Now, by all means go back to your respective rants.
The Tigers exhibit the signs of extreme heat.
Thanks, found it.Yoozername wrote: ↑19 Oct 2019, 18:22Please read through the thread, as the link is already in this thread.
Aha.Michael Kenny wrote: ↑19 Oct 2019, 18:44The Tigers exhibit the signs of extreme heat.
The exhaust cowls can suffer heat-damaged in normal use. Below the cowls are 'white' as is the RH side of the mantlet. That is heat damage to the turret.
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Here a poor quality side view showing more 'white' in the side of the same Tiger. It is certainly fire-damaged.
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The Tiger below has the hatch missing from the swing arm. Normally a sign of a turret explosion. Also the suspension is wrecked. Extreme heat damage?
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It appears the commanders hatch is missing from this Tiger but the photo is not good enough to say with abslolute certainty.
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The 4th Tiger (which may be a seperate train) shows clear signs of fire. The 'white' on the hull side and again missing commanders hatch all indicate severe damage.
Indeed it is. Evident to all.
Which one? Show my error and I will correct.
Not sure what that means .
That is why I posted more than one photo
Oh I can read the thread title just fine and I know this really is just the typical pissing contest, but ifanyone was actually really interestedin analysis rather than urine...Yoozername wrote: Good point. The Homeland Repair numbers would reflect the Eastern Front, Western Front and Italian Front.
And, it isn't about "German tanks lost and damaged", it is about the disingenuously titled 'Classification of a wreck'....
No. The red bit you marked is not the hatch/lid. The 'arm' is sticking out to the right and possibly the hatch/lid is still on it and that is why I said it is not clear. We need a better photo
I am and thus the question I started the thread with. Unfortunately it did not turn out as planned but I tried. Anyway if you (a micturation veteran of old) say it is a pointless peeing competition then I bow to your experience!.Richard Anderson wrote: ↑19 Oct 2019, 20:06but if anyone was actually really interested in analysis rather than urine...
Where can one obtain such information?Richard Anderson wrote: ↑19 Oct 2019, 16:54Uh, guys? This is all fun and all to read, but if you really want to do an analysis of German tanks lost and damaged, the Italian Campaign data set for 10. AOK is more complete and extensive...and they counted unit "losses" as well as the usual three categories.
Just sayin'. Now, by all means go back to your respective rants.