Which is a clear misreprentation as weather was an inhibiting factor known from the beginning and a reason for needing to finish the job before october.You know very well why Tyohoon was started much too late in the season.ljadw wrote: ↑02 Jan 2020, 09:08Since 70 years the German lobby has repeated that the weather was the reason for the failure of Typhoon, why they remained silent about the fact that Barbarossa failed in the summer .checkov wrote: ↑30 Dec 2019, 17:55Ljadw
Come on! Weather was definitely one of the factors.
You yourself have told me the fall rains and resulting mud was a factor in the failed drive on Moscow, cold weather had some (but I agree less than the fall rains) impact as well. As I've said before the Soviet effective strategy of scorched earth policy denied shelter for attacking axis troops while the retreating defending soviets had significantly more.
"...not stopped because of bad weather."
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That scorched earth denied shelter for attacking axis forces is not a serious argument as the Germans were sheltering with the civilians and as they still advanced.
The main reason for the failure of Typhoon was that after the defeats of Vyazma and Briansk,the Soviets were still able to commit new reserves . If they had collapsed after these battles, the bad weather would not have stopped a German advance .
If the bad weather did not prevent the German victories at Briansk/Vyazma, why should it have blocked the exploitation of these victories ?
The Germans knew that a victorious advance to Moscow with 70 divisions was not possible and would not be needed .Briansk and Vyazma had to be deciding, they were not .
Even if the weather has been better ( which it could not be ) the German advance to Moscow would have failed .
General mud is an invention .General mud did not stop the Soviet advance on the front of AGC in the fall of 1943,the Soviets were stopped by the Germans .
You are intentionally misrepresenting a much more complex debate about decisionmaking before and during Barbarossa.
According to you, any historian with any critical view on any decision on Barbarossa is part of the socalled german lobby. RIidiculous.