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Post by Jose85 » 29 Jun 2020 16:41

Ford 1940 truck-Benelux origin? , and some various origin 917s
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Post by Jose85 » 29 Jun 2020 16:45

Opel Blitz 1t Mannschaftswagen-not the best photos, but a rare subject...
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Post by the Rocketman » 29 Jun 2020 18:00

Jose,

Thanks very fine and intresting set of Opel Blitz Kfz 51 pictures

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Post by ilfil » 29 Jun 2020 18:42

Jose85 wrote:
29 Jun 2020 16:41
Ford 1940 truck-Benelux origin?
Hi Jose,
The cab apart, those marker lights on the fenders and their specific shape give this question a firm positive answer.
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Post by Jose85 » 29 Jun 2020 22:43

Hi,
Thanks!


Another odd Opel Blitz
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Post by Jose85 » 29 Jun 2020 22:50

Ford 917 with a huge "balcony" From the V-shaped 2piece windshield-looks like an original American sheetmetal, other identificators hardly visible, but it looks bit high for normal commercial truck.
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Post by Jose85 » 07 Jul 2020 20:25

Ford BB
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Post by Jose85 » 07 Jul 2020 20:34

Stoewer M12 Kfz.15-not so common Kubel...
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Post by Maxschnauzer » 08 Jul 2020 09:05

Very nice Jose, especially the third one.
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Post by spannermann » 08 Jul 2020 09:59

Hi,
Nice shots of a Reichwehr Kubelwagen, Stoewer R12 RW, being used as a Kfz 15/1 mFernsprechwagen

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Post by Maxschnauzer » 09 Jul 2020 10:18

I may be wrong but I think here is another. Only about 900 produced according to Holger.
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Post by SIS 5 » 09 Jul 2020 11:12

Hi Max,

thank You very much for posting this pic of a Stoewer Kübelwagen with a rear view. According to Werner Oswald "Kraftfahrzeuge und Panzer" only 569 were produced.

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Post by Maxschnauzer » 09 Jul 2020 11:30

Duly noted. Thanks Bert.
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Post by spannermann » 09 Jul 2020 13:58

Hi,
Yes the rear view is a Stoewer R12 RW kfz 15/1 mFernSpWgn.

But quantities are mistaken, the Stoewer M12 in all the above photos is from what was the first production batch known as Gruppe I, they are in the chassis number group Fg Nr 27301 to 27870, which gives 569 chassis numbers, but there no guarentee that all 569 chassis number were actually made into R12 Kubelwagen, its just the batch of numbers that they were allocated.
Only one is know to exist today and that is Fg Nr 27500 from 1935. So from that chassis number it looks fairly certain that something close to the 569 number is possible.

However there were a second batch of R12, known as Gruppe II of 1936 and onwards, running from chassis number Fg Nr 28001 to 28900, of this group chassis numbers 28127, 28136 and 28 574 are known to exist. Consequently at least 574 of this second group were built, but whether they reached 900 is unknown.
So, 596 + 574 gives at least 1170 + manufactured.

In discussions with the Stoewer archivist 1n the 1980's. who gave Oswald (and others) the Gruppe I chassis numbers, he was unaware of the existance of other chassis numbers for Gruppe II, when given those other numbers he found them in the archives, but had presumed they were for civilian Stoewers, never built due to the war occuring.

I believe today two of those four chassis number have been restored and two scrapped.

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Post by SIS 5 » 09 Jul 2020 20:12

Hi Paul,

thank You very, very much for this information about the Stoewer R 12 RW Kübelwagen. I didn´t know that and haven´t read it in any source.
My question: Did the Kübelwagen of the second batch, known as Gruppe II of 1936 and onwards, have four doors and other fenders like on the pic on Holger´s site?

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