SS-Division "Handschar" photos
Re: SS-Division "Handschar" photos
Hello, everyone
Every now and then, when researching something related to the "Handschar", I check our dear host George's book "Himmler's Bosnian Division". Yesterday, instead of a quick-check, I started re-reading it again and reminded myself of how well written that book truly is. A real treat!
That's all I have to say!
Cheers,
Ivan
Every now and then, when researching something related to the "Handschar", I check our dear host George's book "Himmler's Bosnian Division". Yesterday, instead of a quick-check, I started re-reading it again and reminded myself of how well written that book truly is. A real treat!
That's all I have to say!
Cheers,
Ivan
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Re: SS-Division "Handschar" photos
Hello, Ivan
That is true, from time to time I just take the book and read some pages and it's always interesting! Sometimes I wonder how much time it took to write the book, to be honest.
Cheers,
BG44
That is true, from time to time I just take the book and read some pages and it's always interesting! Sometimes I wonder how much time it took to write the book, to be honest.
Cheers,
BG44
Cheers,
BG44
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Thank you for your kind words!
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Re: SS-Division "Handschar" photos
Hello!
First of all, I think this photo was already shared here but I have a question. From left to right; Unknown, Alexander Eggersdorfer, Karl-Gustav Sauberzweig. Does anybody know in which town this photo was taken? According to the website it was taken on 17th April 1944, Bosnia.
I hope that somebody can help me. (Source: https://beeldbankwo2.nl/en/imagebank/de ... 8%7D%20asc)
First of all, I think this photo was already shared here but I have a question. From left to right; Unknown, Alexander Eggersdorfer, Karl-Gustav Sauberzweig. Does anybody know in which town this photo was taken? According to the website it was taken on 17th April 1944, Bosnia.
I hope that somebody can help me. (Source: https://beeldbankwo2.nl/en/imagebank/de ... 8%7D%20asc)
Cheers,
BG44
BG44
Re: SS-Division "Handschar" photos
The place is Brčko, March 1944, the division's return to Bosnia. Photo by SS-PK Nonnenmacher.
Cheers,
Ivan
Cheers,
Ivan
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Re: SS-Division "Handschar" photos
German personnel of SS Handschar Division, pictured in 1944. From left to right: SS-Unterscharführer Riesen (Spieß), SS-Untersturmführer Sackl (Führer 1.Zug), and SS-Obersturmführer Rein (Führer 2.Zug). Maybe someone know the unit or their Christian names?
Source: http://www.military-antiques-stockholm. ... ts_id=7368
Source: http://www.military-antiques-stockholm. ... ts_id=7368
Re: SS-Division "Handschar" photos
Hello, ARK
See our host George's book "Himmler's Bosnian Division", page 341
Ivan
See our host George's book "Himmler's Bosnian Division", page 341
Cheers,George Lepre wrote:
Hannes Riesen, Vitatins Sackl and Rolf Rein of Flak Abt. 13 in Bosnia.
Ivan
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Thank you Ivan
Re: SS-Division "Handschar" photos
Some info from John P. Moore's Führerliste:
Rolf Rein (* 14.07.1921 Hannover) SS-number 487611
SS-Flak Abt. 13 in 04.1944 as Ustuf.
SS-Flak Abt. 509 in 07.1944 as Ustuf.
Vitalius Sackl (* 09.08.1915 in ?) no SS-number
7. SS-Frw. Geb. Div. "Prinz Eugen" in 04.1942 as Ustuf.
SS-Flak Abt. 13 in 01.1944 as Ustuf.
SS-Pz. Jg. Abt. 509 in 12.1944 as Ustuf.
It should be noted that 17.06.1944 the 3.(le.)/SS-Flak Abt. 13 (with 2,0 cm. Fla. guns) became the 3.(Fla.)/SS-Pz. Jg. Abt. 509. My educated guess is that Sackl served in these units.
Best regards,
Frans
Rolf Rein (* 14.07.1921 Hannover) SS-number 487611
SS-Flak Abt. 13 in 04.1944 as Ustuf.
SS-Flak Abt. 509 in 07.1944 as Ustuf.
Vitalius Sackl (* 09.08.1915 in ?) no SS-number
7. SS-Frw. Geb. Div. "Prinz Eugen" in 04.1942 as Ustuf.
SS-Flak Abt. 13 in 01.1944 as Ustuf.
SS-Pz. Jg. Abt. 509 in 12.1944 as Ustuf.
It should be noted that 17.06.1944 the 3.(le.)/SS-Flak Abt. 13 (with 2,0 cm. Fla. guns) became the 3.(Fla.)/SS-Pz. Jg. Abt. 509. My educated guess is that Sackl served in these units.
Best regards,
Frans
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Thank you Frans
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Tidak apa-apa! Selamat! (You're welcome. Regards!)
Frans
Frans
Re: SS-Division "Handschar" photos
Good morning,
interesting topic, a question is certainly allowed:
A german collector friend bought a very "cropped" Fez in the early 1970s, as seen in some of the photos of that time.
Very expensive collectors stuff, even back then, as far as I remember, more than 1000,- german Mark back then for the Fez.
The question, why were some of these Fez headdresses cut so short, and formed to a special "style", was that the characteristic of some special units?
Thanks for answers, pure curiosity..?
Hans1906
Btw: The book of George Lepre is online as a *pdf file, download close to 8 megabyte, with good text, but bad photo quality,
certainly not in the author's sense.
interesting topic, a question is certainly allowed:
A german collector friend bought a very "cropped" Fez in the early 1970s, as seen in some of the photos of that time.
Very expensive collectors stuff, even back then, as far as I remember, more than 1000,- german Mark back then for the Fez.
The question, why were some of these Fez headdresses cut so short, and formed to a special "style", was that the characteristic of some special units?
Thanks for answers, pure curiosity..?
Hans1906
Btw: The book of George Lepre is online as a *pdf file, download close to 8 megabyte, with good text, but bad photo quality,
certainly not in the author's sense.
The paradise of the successful lends itself perfectly to a hell for the unsuccessful. (Bertold Brecht on Hollywood)
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Re: SS-Division "Handschar" photos
Hans1906 wrote: ↑25 Jul 2020, 12:09Good morning,
interesting topic, a question is certainly allowed:
A german collector friend bought a very "cropped" Fez in the early 1970s, as seen in some of the photos of that time.
Very expensive collectors stuff, even back then, as far as I remember, more than 1000,- german Mark back then for the Fez.
The question, why were some of these Fez headdresses cut so short, and formed to a special "style", was that the characteristic of some special units?
Thanks for answers, pure curiosity..?
Hans1906
Btw: The book of George Lepre is online as a *pdf file, download close to 8 megabyte, with good text, but bad photo quality,
certainly not in the author's sense.
Greetings Hans and sorry in advance for this late response,
The fezzes were cut short or better to say adapted to combat use after the division's training in Neuhammer. The tall fezzes you certainly saw in the arrival of either Himmler or the Grand Mufti were almost parade-like fezzes which were issued only to the Stabsjägerkompanie of the 13SS Division. So the only long fezzes were the ones issued prior to 1944 and were not used in combat.
Cheers, Filip
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Good morning Filip,
thanks for your reply, I was asking about the very small, as you called them "fezzes" used in combat.
Please see the attached photo:
Weekend greetings from Hans1906
thanks for your reply, I was asking about the very small, as you called them "fezzes" used in combat.
Please see the attached photo:
Weekend greetings from Hans1906
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