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Einsatzgruppe in Poland 1939

Post by steve248 » 22 Jan 2005 17:47

There area number of additions to the listings above:

Einsatzgruppe I
Vertreter und Verbindungsführer to 14.Armee - SS-Staf Walter Huppenkothen

There was also a Sonderkommando with about 30 men from Gestapo Munich under KK Schmer, who also acted as Vertreter of Hasselberg (EK 3)

Einsatzgruppe IV
Gruppenchef Beutel was replaced in mid Oct 1939 by his Vertreter, SS-Stubaf Josef Meisinger

Einsatzgruppe z.b.V. von Woyrsch
the 350 men were divided into two groups commanded by SS-Brig Hellwig and SS-Obf Trummler.

Einsatzkommando 16 was "selbständig" and "für das Gebiet des Militärbefehlshabers Westpreussen" under SS-Ostubaf RD Dr Tröger.
EK 16 consisted of about 100 men from the Stapo and Kripo Danzig supplemented with a Schupo detachment.
There were three Teilkommandos -
into Gdingen - under KD Class
into Bromberg - under KR Lölgen
into Thorn - KK Leyer

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Re: Einsatzgruppe z.b.V. 08.39 - 09.39

Post by stcamp » 24 May 2011 17:30

EG I operated in Krakow and S. Poland
EG II was headquartered in Czestochowa and then Radom. The first city is worth looking up for the time period and aktions taken
EG III Lodz
EG IV was mobile for this stage. Wst Prussia to Bydgogozyz, Est Prussia, and Bialystok. Bydgogozyz saw approx 400 Poles and Jews shot in Sept
EG V East Prussia towards Warsaw
EG VI Poznam
z,b.V Upper Silesia and Tarnow

Source: Pg 438 (footnote) The Origins of the Final Solution. He mentions his primary source as Solnderreferat "Operation Tanneburg) SIPO Sept 6 to Oct 6 1939 USHHM RG 15.007m Reel 2, Files 1 and 2

ALso... (Rough notes)

Einsatzgruppe I: Commanded by Bruno Streckenbach
Vertreter und Verbindungsführer to 14.Armee - SS-Staf Walter Huppenkothen
Established: August 1939
Disbanded: November 20, 1939
This group was assigned to AOK 14
Specific Locations: Neutitschen, Bielsko, Rzeszow.
Police Battalion I /1: Later became Police Battalion 92
Einsatzkommando 1 Hahn
Einsatzkommando 2 Müller
Einsatzkommando 3 Hasselberg
Einsatzkommando 4 Brunner
Police Battalion II/1: Later became Police Battalion 63
Police Battalion III/1: Later became Police Battalion 171
Police Battalion IV/1: Later became Police Battalion 81
Police Battalion V/1: Later became Police Battalion 62

Notes:

Einsatzgruppen II: Commanded by Dr. Schfer
This group was assigned to AOK 8.
Einsatzkommando 1 Sens
Einsatzkommando 2 Rux
Police Battalion I/2: Later became Police Battalion 101
Police Battalion II/2: Later became Police Battalion 102
Police Battalion III/2: Later became Police Battalion 103
Police Battalion IV/2: Later became Police Battalion 42
Police Battalion V/2: Later became Police Battalion 71

Notes: September 1939
Reichsfuehrer-SS Heinrich Himmler sent a "Special Duty" Einsatzgruppe (Action Group) under Udo von Woyrsch to liquidate Polish intellectuals in the area of Katowice, Poland, and to deport the Jews of Danzig, West Prussia, Poznan, and Upper Silesia into the interior of Poland, (Hoehne 342) AHF

Einsatzgruppen III: This group was assigned to AOK 10.
Dr. Fischer
Einsatzkommando 1 Scharpwinkel
Einsatzkommando 2 Dr. Liphardt
Police Battalion I/3: Later became Police Battalion 41

Einsatzgruppe IV (beim AOK. 4): Beutel
Gruppenchef Beutel was replaced in mid Oct 1939 by his Vertreter, SS-Stubaf Josef Meisinger
Einsatzkommando 1 Bischoff
Einsatzkommando 2 Dr. Hammer

z.b.V (Special Political Operations).
Police Battalion I/4: Later became Police Battalion 61
Or the following Police Battalions; 62, 63, 81, 92, and 171. I tend to agree with Alexander B. Rossino and Wolfgang Curilla that Police Group z.b.V. was an Einsatzgruppen staffed with Schutzpolizei and SD and detailed to murder Poles as part of Operation “Tannenburg.” Police Group z.b.V. was a logical progression and the precursor to what was to come in the Soviet Union.
Rasch was "Führer des Einsatzkommandos z.b.V." (350 men) and "Führer des Gruppenstabes der Einsatzgruppe z.b.V. der Sicherheitspolizei und des SD" under Udo von Woyrsch.
Einsatzgruppe z.b.V. von Woyrsch
the 350 men were divided into two groups commanded by SS-Brig Hellwig and SS-Obf Trummler.


Einsatzgruppe V (beim AOK. 3): Damzog

Einsatzkommando 1 Dr Graefe
Einsatzkommando 2 Dr Schefe
Einsatzkommando 3 Albath
Police Battalion I/5: Later became Police Battalion 1

Einsatzgruppe VI (beim Militärbefehlsbhaber von): Naumann
Einsatzkommando 1 Sommer
Einsatzkommando 2 Flesch
Police Battalion I/6: Later became Police Battalion 2
Police Battalion II/6: Later became Police Battalion 3
Police Battalion III/6: Later became Police Battalion 4
Police Battalion IV/6: Later became Police Battalion 91

Einsatzgruppen 16 (Dansk) Jakob Lolgen commanding, Working West Prussia. Selbschutz units (Alvensleben)also SD unit from Allenstein under SS-Sturmbanfuher Franz Oebsger-Roder (October on)

Polish historian Szymon Datner (Orgins of Final... pg 28) calculates approx 16,000 killed by these groups from Sept to Oct. 1939

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Re: Einsatzgruppe z.b.V. 08.39 - 09.39

Post by Puck » 22 Sep 2020 10:33

In a document concerning Reichsverteidigung from 13.09.1939 I have two names quite new for me:
EG II - 1939-09-12.jpg
who is CO EK II/1 ?? Sena ??
EG IV - 1939-09-12.jpg
who is CO EK IV/2 ?? Dr.Hasaber ??

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Re: Einsatzgruppe z.b.V. 08.39 - 09.39

Post by Georges JEROME » 22 Sep 2020 11:03

thanks Puck
they are mentionned in "Einsatzgruppen in Polen" by Mallmann-Böhler-Matthäus

EK 1/II SS-Stubaf. Otto Sens

EK 2/IV SS-Stubaf. Dr. Walter Hammer
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Re: Einsatzgruppe z.b.V. 08.39 - 09.39

Post by George_W » 22 Sep 2020 11:34

SS-Stubaf. RR Walter Hammer served with KdS Warschau in 1939 and probably early 1940.

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Post by Puck » 22 Sep 2020 11:58

Thank you to both of you!

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Post by Georges JEROME » 22 Sep 2020 13:26

Dr Hammer Walter
join Gestapo on 1935
Regierungsassessor
1936 - 1938 Leiter Gestapostelle Erfurt (Sachsen)
1938 Gestapoamt Berlin
1938 - 1939 RRat Leiter Gestapostelle Schneidemühl (Pommern)
1939 Kdr EK 2/IV
1939 Staff Warschau (RRat) then Stapostelle Aachen
1941 Leiter Abt IV BdS Den Haag
1942/43 leiter Gruppe VI E in RSHA (Mitteleuropa, Balkan)
1943 Stab BdS Verona
1944 Leiter Abt IV Prag
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Re: Einsatzgruppe z.b.V. 08.39 - 09.39

Post by George_W » 22 Sep 2020 14:06

SS-Ostubaf. Dr. Walter Robert Hammer died on 21 February 2003 in München.

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Re: Einsatzgruppe z.b.V. 08.39 - 09.39

Post by steve248 » 24 Sep 2020 07:55

a typo by Georges - Hammer was Leiter VI in Prague

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Post by Georges JEROME » 24 Sep 2020 10:56

Thanks

Befehlsblatt CSSD 11.44 is unprecised " in section RSHA : abg. SS-Ostubaf. Dr. Hammer zum BdS in Prag".

mention of IV came from "Einsatzgruppen in Polen" by Mallmann-Böhler-Matthäus page 33.
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Re: Einsatzgruppe z.b.V. 08.39 - 09.39

Post by steve248 » 24 Sep 2020 15:30

George,
I have the English version of the Mallmann/Bühler/Matthäus book and Hammer not mentioned!
However he know he was on Sipo-Einsatz in Poland with Einsatzgruppe IV.
see this for Prague:
from 1942 to autumn 1943 SS-Ostubaf. ORR Dr. Hammer was Gruppenleiter, RSHA VI E; then sent to Prague to organise Czechs for Amt VI work; beginning 1944 on special mission to Italy. Last seen in Prague during 1944.
about 40 years old; 1.65m tall; thick-set; strong build; round face; fair hair; married, no children
source: 5th DIR of Klaus Huegel, CSDIC/CMF/SD 23, 14 June 1945

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Post by Georges JEROME » 24 Sep 2020 16:54

excellent Steve !
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Re: Einsatzgruppe z.b.V. 08.39 - 09.39

Post by Ludger » 30 Nov 2020 16:28

Georges JEROME wrote:
22 Sep 2020 13:26
Dr Hammer Walter
join Gestapo on 1935
Regierungsassessor
1936 - 1938 Leiter Gestapostelle Erfurt (Sachsen)
1938 Gestapoamt Berlin
1938 - 1939 RRat Leiter Gestapostelle Schneidemühl (Pommern)
1939 Kdr EK 2/IV
1939 Staff Warschau (RRat) then Stapostelle Aachen
1941 Leiter Abt IV BdS Den Haag
1942/43 leiter Gruppe VI E in RSHA (Mitteleuropa, Balkan)
1943 Stab BdS Verona
1944 Leiter Abt IV Prag
Hi Georges and Steve,

Abteilung IV or Abt VI respectively of BdS or ...?
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Re: Einsatzgruppe z.b.V. 08.39 - 09.39

Post by steve248 » 30 Nov 2020 21:18

Yes, he did have jobs at different times and different locations in IV and VI.

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Re: Einsatzgruppe z.b.V. 08.39 - 09.39

Post by Ludger » 01 Dec 2020 09:30

Sorry for my bad expression. I was asking for the organisation in which Abt. IV or VI was implemented. I guess it must have been the BdS Prag because that would be logical somehow.

But just to make sure: Was it Abt. IV/VI of the BdS Prag?
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