Tank & Mech Corps recce battalion and At gun
Tank & Mech Corps recce battalion and At gun
Hi, everyone, I would like to ask Soviet tank/Mech corps sometimes had 85mm gun battalion, I want to know what model is it ? D-44 was only introduced in 1944 ?
And I also see in 1943 prior to Kursk, Soviet Mech/Tank corps had two recce units : 288 men motorcycle battalion and 220 men armoured car battalion.
Did armoured car battalion had 20 x US M-3 or Soviet BA-10 or lighter BA64 ?
And any SU-57 was introduced in motorcycle battalion in July 1943 ? Thank
And I also see in 1943 prior to Kursk, Soviet Mech/Tank corps had two recce units : 288 men motorcycle battalion and 220 men armoured car battalion.
Did armoured car battalion had 20 x US M-3 or Soviet BA-10 or lighter BA64 ?
And any SU-57 was introduced in motorcycle battalion in July 1943 ? Thank
Re: Tank & Mech Corps recce battalion and At gun
Common anti-aircraft guns towed by tractors.
There were two variants of armored car battalion organization adopted in 1942:And I also see in 1943 prior to Kursk, Soviet Mech/Tank corps had two recce units : 288 men motorcycle battalion and 220 men armoured car battalion.
Shtat 010/289 - 112 men, one tank company with 7 T-70 tanks, two armored car companies with total 22 BA-64
Shtat 010/389 - 208 men, one armored car company with 12 armored cars, two armored carrier companies with total 20 armored carriers (apparently "Universal" carriers) and corresponding number of infantry.
The first variant seems to be more common.
They were never introduced formally (i.e. in TO/Es) as far as I know, but in fact substituted towed anti-tank guns. I don't know exactly when it started.And any SU-57 was introduced in motorcycle battalion in July 1943 ? Thank
Re: Tank & Mech Corps recce battalion and At gun
Hi, Art, thank so much for your information. I see Charles Sharp book Soviet OOB mentions 208 men armored car company was equipped with heavy armored cars, is it mean BA-10 ? thankArt wrote: ↑04 Oct 2020, 17:49Common anti-aircraft guns towed by tractors.
There were two variants of armored car battalion organization adopted in 1942:And I also see in 1943 prior to Kursk, Soviet Mech/Tank corps had two recce units : 288 men motorcycle battalion and 220 men armoured car battalion.
Shtat 010/289 - 112 men, one tank company with 7 T-70 tanks, two armored car companies with total 22 BA-64
Shtat 010/389 - 208 men, one armored car company with 12 armored cars, two armored carrier companies with total 20 armored carriers (apparently "Universal" carriers) and corresponding number of infantry.
The first variant seems to be more common.
They were never introduced formally (i.e. in TO/Es) as far as I know, but in fact substituted towed anti-tank guns. I don't know exactly when it started.And any SU-57 was introduced in motorcycle battalion in July 1943 ? Thank
Re: Tank & Mech Corps recce battalion and At gun
According to an organization diagram reproduced the General Staff's establishment album the reconnaissance battalion consisted of two armored carrier companies (54 men each) and an armored car company (45 men). Assuming 10 armored cars in the latter company that means that it was equipped with heavy armored cars (4-men crew) like BA-10 or earlier. Also there were apparently 2 armored cars at the battalion HQ, but nothing can be said about their type.
Re: Tank & Mech Corps recce battalion and At gun
Hi, Art, thank for your additional data.Art wrote: ↑05 Oct 2020, 12:45According to an organization diagram reproduced the General Staff's establishment album the reconnaissance battalion consisted of two armored carrier companies (54 men each) and an armored car company (45 men). Assuming 10 armored cars in the latter company that means that it was equipped with heavy armored cars (4-men crew) like BA-10 or earlier. Also there were apparently 2 armored cars at the battalion HQ, but nothing can be said about their type.
Re: Tank & Mech Corps recce battalion and At gun
From this document as of 15.12.1942 the 1st Armored Car Reconnaissance Battalion (18 Tank Corps) had 15 armored carriers and 13 BA-64 armored cards, 3rd Battalion (25 Tank Corps) - 20 armored carriers and 11 BA-64 armored cars.
Re: Tank & Mech Corps recce battalion and At gun
Hi, Art, thank for your addition. I see 1st Tank Corps had 97 x BA-64 armored car before meeting German relief force to Stalingrad in Operation Winter Storm. It is big figure.Art wrote: ↑15 Nov 2020, 19:02From this document as of 15.12.1942 the 1st Armored Car Reconnaissance Battalion (18 Tank Corps) had 15 armored carriers and 13 BA-64 armored cards, 3rd Battalion (25 Tank Corps) - 20 armored carriers and 11 BA-64 armored cars.
Re: Tank & Mech Corps recce battalion and At gun
I guess, that could mean 97 armored cars and armored carriers. Sometimes they were the same column of the reporting tables. The authorized number of various armored cars and armored carriers in the 1942's mech. corps was above 100.