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Re: Id german optical equipment

Post by Sturm78 » 04 Nov 2020 13:57

Bert wrote
that´s a ballistic director for the 34mm AA gun 38 made by the Swiss company Hasler AG in Bern (Kommandogerät Hasler). Here the source of the pic with text: http://www.analogmuseum.org/library/win ... geraet.pdf
And You are right, it is a rangefinder (telemeter) 300cm Barr & Stroud of the Swiss Army. Here two more pics of this rangefinder (source of the pic: http://www.loutan.net/olivier/archives/ ... ee-suisse/ ). At the end of the war the Swiss Army had 114 of these rangefinders.
Thanks for your answer, Bert.
It is strange the mix of equipments of different origins in the same anti-aircraft system. Normally all the elements of the fire control system of a AA battery had the same origin... :?

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Post by Sturm78 » 30 Nov 2020 13:12

Hi all,

Not German equipment but.... :roll:

I found this image en internet...According to photo caption Italian San Giorgio rangefinder
Is a real functional equipment ? Battleship rangefinder, perhaps ??
Any idea about the model ?

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Re: Id german optical equipment

Post by Eax-E » 30 Nov 2020 18:23

Hi Sturm,

Woah ! Definetly a masterpiece !

Naval for sure. Rangefinders were way less accurante that the triangular method used by coastal batteries. Of course a ship can not use the triangular method and had to have the very bigger (big >>>accurate) possible rangefinder. Some german batteries had large rangefinder but they were from KM design (Heer batteries only had poor equipment).

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Post by Sturm78 » 01 Dec 2020 17:02

Hi Arthur,

Its is difficult to ensure but I would say about 12m long.....

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Re: Id german optical equipment

Post by Sturm78 » 04 Dec 2020 21:34

Hi all,

Any idea about the model or origin of this rangefinder in German use ?

Image from Ebay
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Post by Sturm78 » 12 Dec 2020 18:48

Nobody ?

Well, here an image from LUCE archive. Does sopmeboy know the exact purpose of this Italian naval optical device ?

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Post by Sturm78 » 20 Dec 2020 20:08

Nobody for my last image ?

Well, here an image from Alamy archive webpage. A german naval rangefinder. Any idea about this equipment or about the ship ?

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Post by tigre » 03 Feb 2021 23:14

Hello to all :D; more...................................

Fernkamera.

Source: Der Rußlandkrieg fotografiert von Soldaten from Paul Carell

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Post by Grzesio » 04 Feb 2021 23:37

Sturm78 wrote:
20 Dec 2020 20:08
Well, here an image from Alamy archive webpage. A german naval rangefinder. Any idea about this equipment or about the ship ?
I think, it's a Deutschland class battlecruiser.

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Post by Sturm78 » 05 Feb 2021 22:36

Grzesio wrote
I think, it's a Deutschland class battlecruiser.
Hi Grzesio,

I've been looking at photos and I think you're right. I would say that the photo is taken from the searchlight platforms located around the chimney
More specifically I would say that it is the same Deutschland, since you cannot see the catapult that his two brothers had aft of the smokestack...

About the rangefinder, I suppoose it is a Zeiss product, is it not ?

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Re: Id german optical equipment

Post by Sturm78 » 07 Feb 2021 10:44

Raul wrote
Fernkamera.
Does somebody konw the exact purpose of this camera ? :?

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Post by tigre » 08 Feb 2021 12:37

Hello to all :D; looking around found something...................................

Fernkamera.

XVIII. Photographic work.

The photographic works include:
photographic,
long-distance photography,
photogranimetric and stereophotogrammetric recordings and their further elaboration or utilization.
This work is carried out by photographic and photogrammetric specialists.

They are primarily used for war surveying, then for land surveying tasks, and finally for work on war history and for object lessons. For this purpose, the formations of the war mappings are provided with photographer equipment. For combat purposes (especially for artillery), photographic or stereophotogrammetric panoramic photos (Rundbild) are used.

They are usually taken from observer stations or other viewpoints in order to always show the commanders the area viewed by the observer, to enable new observers to get their bearings more quickly and to facilitate the reporting service and the transmission of orders.

The following devices are used for panoramic photos:
Overview sets of 60, 70, 80 cm, then remote sets with 3 m and 4 m focal length, all with, angle measuring device and image marks. Single pictures with ordinary or remote devices (Fernkamera??) are produced of important objects or for purposes of war history as well as occasionally for land survey work for the purpose of describing the country, and finally for teaching purposes.

Source: Dienstvorschrift für die Kriegsmappierung 1917.

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Re: Id german optical equipment

Post by Sturm78 » 12 Feb 2021 15:37

Hi all,

Does someone know the exact purpose of this optical device ??
It seems designated Zeiss Auswanderungmesser AM17 according to the Russian forum where I found the image...

I suppose a early type of Flak fire director, precursor of the Kdo.Ger.35, maybe....

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Re: Id german optical equipment

Post by Grzesio » 12 Feb 2021 16:53

Auswanderungmesser (Am) was a relatively simple device calculating corrections for aiming in direct fire - something like the later Kommandorechner. I'm aware of two models - Am Peres of 1915 and Am Schoenian of 1916, the latter was apparently not made in series.
Kdo.Ger. and Kdo.Hi.Ger. calculated azimuth, elevation and fuze setting for indirect fire.

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Re: Id german optical equipment

Post by Sturm78 » 12 Feb 2021 21:58

Thanks for your answer, Grzesio

Do you have any image of Am Peres of 1915 ?
According to photo caption the device of my image is an Zeiss AM17

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