Identification of SA leaders - Group photos at the Reichsführerschule der SA
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Identification of SA leaders - Group photos at the Reichsführerschule der SA
The U.S. National Archives (NARA) website recently posted many group photos showing graduates of instructional courses (Lehrgänge) at the Reichsführerschule der SA in München. This thread is to aid in identification of lesser-known SA, SS, and NSKK leaders who appear in those photos.
To begin: These are the graduates of 7. Lehrgang at the Reichsführerschule der SA in München (06.12.1931-19.12.1931).
Seeking identifications for most of the men pictured.
With thanks in advance,
~ Mike
To begin: These are the graduates of 7. Lehrgang at the Reichsführerschule der SA in München (06.12.1931-19.12.1931).
Seeking identifications for most of the men pictured.
With thanks in advance,
~ Mike
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Re: Identification of SA leaders - 7. Lehrgang, RFS
The "First aid" from me, Mike.
16. Heinrich Philippi SA-Staf.
27. Heinrich Soest SA-Brif.
31. Kurt Kaergel SA-Brif.
33. Eduard Schmeer SA-Staf. (not Friedrich)
34. Kurt von Barisani NSKK-Ogruf. (Wrong ID).
...and wihout number SA-Staf. and HJ-Obergebietsführer Dr.phil. Georg Usadel (attached).
Best regards,
Andrey.
16. Heinrich Philippi SA-Staf.
27. Heinrich Soest SA-Brif.
31. Kurt Kaergel SA-Brif.
33. Eduard Schmeer SA-Staf. (not Friedrich)
34. Kurt von Barisani NSKK-Ogruf. (Wrong ID).
...and wihout number SA-Staf. and HJ-Obergebietsführer Dr.phil. Georg Usadel (attached).
Best regards,
Andrey.
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Re: Identification of SA leaders - 7. Lehrgang, RFS
Outstanding work, Andrey, and thanks for catching the un-numbered Usadel.
Gratefully,
~ Mike
Gratefully,
~ Mike
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Re: Identification of SA leaders - 7. Lehrgang, RFS
I have to disagree with 34 as being Barisani. Although they look similiar, the ears, eyebrows, receding hairline are are all wrong. Review the comparison below. Major differences.
Mark
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Re: Identification of SA leaders - 7. Lehrgang, RFS
Agree, Mark, and Barisani appears to have a cleft chin whereas the mystery officer does not.
Both Austrian but different men.
~ Mike
Both Austrian but different men.
~ Mike
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Re: Identification of SA leaders - 7. Lehrgang, RFS
Mike and Mark, I was wrong, sorry...Michael Miller wrote: ↑03 Apr 2021 15:46Agree, Mark, and Barisani appears to have a cleft chin whereas the mystery officer does not.
Both Austrian but different men.
~ Mike
Here's another photo for comparison - different people. Austria confused me)
Andrey.
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Re: Identification of SA leaders - 7. Lehrgang, RFS
No 33 should be Eduard Schmeer and not Friedrich.
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Re: Identification of SA leaders - 7. Lehrgang, RFS
Hello to all
The microfilm roll 073 of the NARA series T-581 (NSDAP Hauptarchiv) supports that the 7.Kurs an der RFS took place from 9.November to 29.November.1931. This is the first page of the list of attendants
The photo posted by Michael shows the attendants to a Lehrgang by the Reichspropaganda-Abteilung II that took place at the RFS from 7.December to 18.December.1931. This is the list of Teilnehmer (that includes almost all the names already listed) from the same source
Hope the names make easier to put them to faces.
Regards from Madrid
Ignacio
The microfilm roll 073 of the NARA series T-581 (NSDAP Hauptarchiv) supports that the 7.Kurs an der RFS took place from 9.November to 29.November.1931. This is the first page of the list of attendants
The photo posted by Michael shows the attendants to a Lehrgang by the Reichspropaganda-Abteilung II that took place at the RFS from 7.December to 18.December.1931. This is the list of Teilnehmer (that includes almost all the names already listed) from the same source
Hope the names make easier to put them to faces.
Regards from Madrid
Ignacio
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Re: Identification of SA leaders - 7. Lehrgang, RFS
Very helpful, Ignacio, and great to have these documents.
Thank you.
Best wishes,
~ Mike
Thank you.
Best wishes,
~ Mike
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Re: Identification of SA leaders - 7. Lehrgang, RFS
It's Friedrich FenzMark Costa wrote: ↑03 Apr 2021 15:17I have to disagree with 34 as being Barisani. Although they look similiar, the ears, eyebrows, receding hairline are are all wrong. Review the comparison below. Major differences.
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Re: Identification of SA leaders - 7. Lehrgang, RFS
#23 Otto Sommer
#29 Friedrich Möhring
#40 Peter Reinarzt
Left next to Usadel possiblely Fritz Schinnerer
#29 Friedrich Möhring
#40 Peter Reinarzt
Left next to Usadel possiblely Fritz Schinnerer
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Re: Identification of SA leaders - 7. Lehrgang, RFS
Thank you, Laurens. Your SA expertise is always appreciated.
The moustache threw me off on Fenz, but yes- unmistakably him (right down to the Baltenkreuz and Schlesischer Adler).
Great work, everyone.
Best wishes,
~ Mike
The moustache threw me off on Fenz, but yes- unmistakably him (right down to the Baltenkreuz and Schlesischer Adler).
Great work, everyone.
Best wishes,
~ Mike
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Re: Identification of SA leaders - 7. Lehrgang, RFS
Here are the graduates of 15. Lehrgang (19.01.1933-14.02.1933).
1. SA-Oberführer _______
2. SA-Standartenführer ________
3. SA-Sturmbannführer Paul Faßbach
4. SA-Standartenführer _____
5. SA-Sturmbannführer _____
6. SA-Gruppenführer Hans Fuchs
7. SA-Standartenführer ________
8. SA-Sturmbannführer ________
9. SA-Gruppenführer Hermann Reschny
10. SA-Oberführer Dr. Heinrich Bennecke
11. SA-Stabschef Ernst Röhm
12. Oops-- forgot to number anyone as "12".
13. SA-Standartenführer Adolf Kob
14. SA-Oberführer Wilhelm Freiherr von Schorlemer
15. SA-Gruppenführer Franz Ritter von Hörauf
16. SA-____führer _________
17. SA-Oberführer Fritz Vielstich
19. SA-Oberführer _________
20. SA-Sturmbannführer __________
21. SA-Standartenführer __________
22. SA-Standartenführer __________
23. SA-Sturmbannführer __________
24. SA-Sturmbannführer __________
25. SA-Sturmbannführer __________
26. SA-Standartenführer __________
27. SA-____führer __________
28. SA-Oberführer __________
29. SA-Standartenführer _________
30. SA-Standartenführer Alfred Richter
31. SA-Standartenführer ___________
32. SA-Standartenführer ___________
33. SA-Standartenführer ___________
34. SA-Standartenführer Wilhelm Sander
35. SA-Standartenführer ________________
36. SA-Sturmbannführer ________________
37. SA-Sturmbannführer ________________
38. SA-Standartenführer ________________
39. SA-Standartenführer ________________
40. SA-Standartenführer ________________
41. SA-______führer ________________
42. SA-Sturmbannführer _____________
43. SA-____führer __________________
44. SA-Standartenführer ____________
45. SA-Sturmbannführer ____________
46. SA-Standartenführer (?) _________
47. SA-Sturmbannführer ____________
48. SA-Sturmbannführer ____________
49. SA-Sturmbannführer ____________
50. SA-Sturmbannführer ____________
51. SA-Standartenführer ____________
52. SA-Standartenführer ____________
53. SA-Standartenführer ____________
54. SA-Standartenführer Achim von Arnim
55. SA-Standartenführer ____________
1. SA-Oberführer _______
2. SA-Standartenführer ________
3. SA-Sturmbannführer Paul Faßbach
4. SA-Standartenführer _____
5. SA-Sturmbannführer _____
6. SA-Gruppenführer Hans Fuchs
7. SA-Standartenführer ________
8. SA-Sturmbannführer ________
9. SA-Gruppenführer Hermann Reschny
10. SA-Oberführer Dr. Heinrich Bennecke
11. SA-Stabschef Ernst Röhm
12. Oops-- forgot to number anyone as "12".
13. SA-Standartenführer Adolf Kob
14. SA-Oberführer Wilhelm Freiherr von Schorlemer
15. SA-Gruppenführer Franz Ritter von Hörauf
16. SA-____führer _________
17. SA-Oberführer Fritz Vielstich
19. SA-Oberführer _________
20. SA-Sturmbannführer __________
21. SA-Standartenführer __________
22. SA-Standartenführer __________
23. SA-Sturmbannführer __________
24. SA-Sturmbannführer __________
25. SA-Sturmbannführer __________
26. SA-Standartenführer __________
27. SA-____führer __________
28. SA-Oberführer __________
29. SA-Standartenführer _________
30. SA-Standartenführer Alfred Richter
31. SA-Standartenführer ___________
32. SA-Standartenführer ___________
33. SA-Standartenführer ___________
34. SA-Standartenführer Wilhelm Sander
35. SA-Standartenführer ________________
36. SA-Sturmbannführer ________________
37. SA-Sturmbannführer ________________
38. SA-Standartenführer ________________
39. SA-Standartenführer ________________
40. SA-Standartenführer ________________
41. SA-______führer ________________
42. SA-Sturmbannführer _____________
43. SA-____führer __________________
44. SA-Standartenführer ____________
45. SA-Sturmbannführer ____________
46. SA-Standartenführer (?) _________
47. SA-Sturmbannführer ____________
48. SA-Sturmbannführer ____________
49. SA-Sturmbannführer ____________
50. SA-Sturmbannführer ____________
51. SA-Standartenführer ____________
52. SA-Standartenführer ____________
53. SA-Standartenführer ____________
54. SA-Standartenführer Achim von Arnim
55. SA-Standartenführer ____________
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Re: Identification of SA leaders - Group photos at the Reichsführerschule der SA
Thank you Mike! Let's hope we can solve this picture...
1. SA-Oberführer Uhland Ludwig
2. SA-Standartenführer Jaster, Oscar
3. SA-Sturmbannführer Paul Faßbach
4. SA-Standartenführer Haldenwang, Otto von
5. SA-Sturmbannführer Klenke, Arnold ??
6. SA-Gruppenführer Hans Fuchs
7. SA-Standartenführer
8. SA-Sturmbannführer
9. SA-Gruppenführer Hermann Reschny
10. SA-Oberführer Dr. Heinrich Bennecke
11. SA-Stabschef Ernst Röhm
12. Oops-- forgot to number anyone as "12".
13. SA-Standartenführer Adolf Kob
14. SA-Oberführer Wilhelm Freiherr von Schorlemer
15. SA-Gruppenführer Franz Ritter von Hörauf
16. SA-____führer
17. SA-Oberführer Fritz Vielstich
18. Ritter von Schöpf
19. SA-Standartenführer Pahlings, Heinrich
20. SA-Sturmbannführer Thiele, Georg
21. SA-Standartenführer Haas, Karl
22. SA-Standartenführer Jürgensen, Heinrich
23. SA-Sturmbannführer Göllner, Fritz
24. SA-Sturmbannführer
25. SA-Sturmbannführer
26. SA-Standartenführer Pahlings, Heinrich
27. SA-____führer Kießling, Kurt
28. SA-Oberführer
29. SA-Standartenführer
30. SA-Standartenführer Alfred Richter
31. SA-Standartenführer Kraft, Karl
32. SA-Standartenführer Herwig, Adalbert
33. SA-Standartenführer Michaelis, Rudolf
34. SA-Standartenführer Wilhelm Sander
35. SA-Standartenführer Escher, Friedrich
36. SA-Sturmbannführer Wallis, Bruno
37. SA-Sturmbannführer
38. SA-Standartenführer Schäfer, Johannes
39. SA-Standartenführer
40. SA-Standartenführer Conta, Eberhard von
41. SA-______führer
42. SA-Sturmbannführer
43. SA-____führer
44. SA-Standartenführer
45. SA-Sturmbannführer
46. SA-Standartenführer Boese, Conrad
47. SA-Sturmbannführer
48. SA-Sturmbannführer
49. SA-Sturmbannführer Eiden, Nikolaus ?
50. SA-Sturmbannführer Sievers, Walter
51. SA-Standartenführer Kergel, Eberhard
52. SA-Standartenführer
53. SA-Standartenführer Borchmann, Emil Ernst
54. SA-Standartenführer Achim von Arnim
55. SA-Standartenführer Kaergel, Kurt
1. SA-Oberführer Uhland Ludwig
2. SA-Standartenführer Jaster, Oscar
3. SA-Sturmbannführer Paul Faßbach
4. SA-Standartenführer Haldenwang, Otto von
5. SA-Sturmbannführer Klenke, Arnold ??
6. SA-Gruppenführer Hans Fuchs
7. SA-Standartenführer
8. SA-Sturmbannführer
9. SA-Gruppenführer Hermann Reschny
10. SA-Oberführer Dr. Heinrich Bennecke
11. SA-Stabschef Ernst Röhm
12. Oops-- forgot to number anyone as "12".
13. SA-Standartenführer Adolf Kob
14. SA-Oberführer Wilhelm Freiherr von Schorlemer
15. SA-Gruppenführer Franz Ritter von Hörauf
16. SA-____führer
17. SA-Oberführer Fritz Vielstich
18. Ritter von Schöpf
19. SA-Standartenführer Pahlings, Heinrich
20. SA-Sturmbannführer Thiele, Georg
21. SA-Standartenführer Haas, Karl
22. SA-Standartenführer Jürgensen, Heinrich
23. SA-Sturmbannführer Göllner, Fritz
24. SA-Sturmbannführer
25. SA-Sturmbannführer
26. SA-Standartenführer Pahlings, Heinrich
27. SA-____führer Kießling, Kurt
28. SA-Oberführer
29. SA-Standartenführer
30. SA-Standartenführer Alfred Richter
31. SA-Standartenführer Kraft, Karl
32. SA-Standartenführer Herwig, Adalbert
33. SA-Standartenführer Michaelis, Rudolf
34. SA-Standartenführer Wilhelm Sander
35. SA-Standartenführer Escher, Friedrich
36. SA-Sturmbannführer Wallis, Bruno
37. SA-Sturmbannführer
38. SA-Standartenführer Schäfer, Johannes
39. SA-Standartenführer
40. SA-Standartenführer Conta, Eberhard von
41. SA-______führer
42. SA-Sturmbannführer
43. SA-____führer
44. SA-Standartenführer
45. SA-Sturmbannführer
46. SA-Standartenführer Boese, Conrad
47. SA-Sturmbannführer
48. SA-Sturmbannführer
49. SA-Sturmbannführer Eiden, Nikolaus ?
50. SA-Sturmbannführer Sievers, Walter
51. SA-Standartenführer Kergel, Eberhard
52. SA-Standartenführer
53. SA-Standartenführer Borchmann, Emil Ernst
54. SA-Standartenführer Achim von Arnim
55. SA-Standartenführer Kaergel, Kurt