Id. old gun

[JKernwerk]

I do not see much (or any) concrete but these kind of guns were at least used at Thionville, Metz, Strassburg, Molsheim but I assume they were used elsewhere.
It looks like a 10cm Schirmlafette.
JK

[Ondrej Filip]

Hi all,

Any idea about this gun ?

Image from Ebay
Sturm78

Hi, Sturm. It really looks like 19th century 10,5 cm gun with armoured "Schirmlafette". That place must be a secondary location, becauase the original German batteries were different (at Strasbourg, feste Kaiser Wilhelm II, Neuf-Brisach, Thorn and Graudenz). The soldiers looks as Germans during WWII. So I guess it could be an ex-German fort "2 Fransecky-Moltke" at Strasbourg, where it was installed by French army as a part of Maginot line. I think it was the only location, where those old but powerful guns were installed before WWII.

[Sturm78]

Hi all

According to Ebay photo caption, Fort Mutzig. Could be this artillery piece an 15cm howitzer ? Model ??

Sturm78

[Sturm78]

Nobody for my ,last image ?

Well, here another image from Ebay. First, I thought in an 21cm Mrs barrel trailer but now I think some details not match.. Any idea ??

Sturm78

[Ondrej Filip]

Hi all

According to Ebay photo caption, Fort Mutzig. Could be this artillery piece an 15cm howitzer ? Model ??

Sturm78

If it is Kaiser Wilhelm II (Mutzig), the turret for 15 cm howitzer is older version H.P.T. 93, not usual H.P.T. 95.

[ALVF]

Hello,

The photograph posted yesterday by "Sturm78" shows the barrel of the Krupp 28-cm Haubitze L/12 i.R.
Built as a prototyp in 1912, this 28 cm is manned by the "Schwere Küstenmörser-Batterie Nr 7" and is ready for the war the 27th August 1914.
The gun is photographed there in Chambley, tracted by a "Dampfflug Lokomotive", this gun was used in the shelling of Fort du Camp des Romains in 1914 and later in Verdun.
Yours sincerely,
Guy François.

[Sturm78]

Ondrej wrote
If it is Kaiser Wilhelm II (Mutzig), the turret for 15 cm howitzer is older version H.P.T. 93, not usual H.P.T. 95.

Thanks for the answer, Ondrej. Do you have any image of the H.P.T. 95 ?

Regards
Sturm78

[Sturm78]

Guy François wrote
The photograph posted yesterday by "Sturm78" shows the barrel of the Krupp 28-cm Haubitze L/12 i.R.
Built as a prototyp in 1912, this 28 cm is manned by the "Schwere Küstenmörser-Batterie Nr 7" and is ready for the war the 27th August 1914.
The gun is photographed there in Chambley, tracted by a "Dampfflug Lokomotive", this gun was used in the shelling of Fort du Camp des Romains in 1914 and later in Verdun.

Thank you very much for your help, Guy François...

I have this unidentified image for a long time in my hard disc. Could be the barrel trailer of an 30.5cm Beta Gerat 09 iR ?? or an 28cm Krupp L14 ?


Image from Ebay
Sturm78

[ALVF]

Hello,

It is the barrel trailer of 28-cm Haubitze L/14 (Versuchshaubitze Krupp).
This Haubitze armed the "Schwere Küstenmörser-Beta-Batterie Nr.8" in 1914.
Yours sincerely,
Guy François.

[Sturm78]

Guy François wrote
It is the barrel trailer of 28-cm Haubitze L/14 (Versuchshaubitze Krupp).
This Haubitze armed the "Schwere Küstenmörser-Beta-Batterie Nr.8" in 1914.
Yours sincerely

Ummmhhhh.....It is posible that you are right but... ....I have this other barrel trailer identified too as an 28cm Krupp L14 and it is possible to see some differences between both....Which is your opinion about this one?

Sturm78

[Ondrej Filip]

Thanks for the answer, Ondrej. Do you have any image of the H.P.T. 95 ?

All the howitzer turrets of Metz fortress are H.P.T. 95. The only place you can see H.P.T. 93 version is Großer Pfaffenberg at Graudenz fortress. Both versions looks the same from the outside, the difference was only in the internal mechanisms.

[peeved]

Any thoughts on this fuzzy shot from exp. eBay.de; Auction N:o in pic name.

Emergency AT gun maybe? Uniform looks slightly Franco-Belgian to me.

Markus

[ALVF]

Hello,

The photograph posted by Sturm78 in post 505 is taken from the "classic" book of Generalleutnant (a.D) Schirmer and, yes, it is the 28-cm H.L/14 Krupp on his trailer.
The photogaph of post 503 shows a different trailer and some points are similar to the trailer of the 28-cm L/12:

May be a 28-cm L/14 tube or a 30,5 cm tube on this old trailer?
I have no certitude...
Yours sincerely,
Guy François.

[ALVF]

Hello,

The emergency anti-tank gun is a french 37 mm made in clandestineness in 1941 and 1942 in Algeria by french navy arsenals (navy guns in emergency mount). These guns were used in 1942-1943 fights of french Army in Tunisia when the "Armée d'Afrique" entered again in the war against german and italian armies on the Algeria-Tunisia borders.
Yours sincerely,
Guy François.

[peeved]

Thank you very much, Mr. François.
Had never heard of such development.
Regards,
Markus