Poor performance by "GD" during ZITADELLE

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Re: Poor performance by "GD" during ZITADELLE

Post by Pascal. Kullmann. » 04 Jun 2021 15:05

Cult Icon wrote:
04 Jun 2021 14:54

Overall this was a more successful partnership.
Yes that is also my impression. It would also be interesting to see Lauchert or Schulz commanding PzRgt GD.

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Re: Poor performance by "GD" during ZITADELLE

Post by Cult Icon » 08 Jun 2021 11:39

Bayerlein's Feb 8, 1946 report " Critical Study of Experiences gained in German Armored Operations" has a surprising reference to GD, written from memory as a US prisoner of war:
In spite of actual experiences from the Eastern Front, it showed that the day of swift tank attacks was over, even against the Russians. A typical example is the first day of the battle of Belgorod-Kursk in July 1943, where the brand-new tank brigade Grossdeutschland (four tank battalions with 250 Panthers) drove furiously into the Russian antitank front, and was almost completely annihilated. Only six Panthers were left fit for use and the objective of the attack was not attained.
Bayerlein was in North Africa with Rommel, after which he was assigned the command of the 3.P (25 October 1943 – 5 January 1944). He was not involved in Citadel, so it is interesting to know where he was given this information.

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Re: Poor performance by "GD" during ZITADELLE

Post by Pascal. Kullmann. » 08 Jun 2021 21:59

Interesting thread from TDI dealing with the Strachwitz/Decker issue: http://www.dupuyinstitute.org/ubb/Forum ... 00003.html

Lawrence presents a pro GD/Strachwitz view.

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Re: Poor performance by "GD" during ZITADELLE

Post by Cult Icon » 09 Jun 2021 02:50

Pascal. Kullmann. wrote:
08 Jun 2021 21:59
Interesting thread from TDI dealing with the Strachwitz/Decker issue: http://www.dupuyinstitute.org/ubb/Forum ... 00003.html

Lawrence presents a pro GD/Strachwitz view.
Is this (from 2001) similar to what he has in his book?

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Re: Poor performance by "GD" during ZITADELLE

Post by Pascal. Kullmann. » 10 Jun 2021 22:32

Cult Icon wrote:
09 Jun 2021 02:50
Pascal. Kullmann. wrote:
08 Jun 2021 21:59
Interesting thread from TDI dealing with the Strachwitz/Decker issue: http://www.dupuyinstitute.org/ubb/Forum ... 00003.html

Lawrence presents a pro GD/Strachwitz view.
Is this (from 2001) similar to what he has in his book?
In his abridged version he doesn't comment on Strachwitz much. No judgement is given.

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