Berghof Obersalzberg

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by Helly Angel » 01 Jun 2021 16:29

Today I received from Germany a postcard that I believe is part of the Winter Garden, it has no date but on the back it says "Haus Wachenfeld", it is edited by Hoffmann. I could never get it in good quality, it cost me just EU 10. I really always wanted it, but I never got a good copy! It was a fortune that I got it. I share it here.
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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by ihoyos » 01 Jun 2021 22:22

I saw that scene many times, but now due the perfect image I can notice some details, never observed before.
Specially the Rattan or Bamboo Chair, well elaborated even with the svastics under the arms , That piece of furniture is very unusual, in Bavarian, even in Germany, nothing to do with typical furniture made of wood of Alpine zones. In my opinion was no made in Germany, but probably, in German African Colony, and also I see the blanket on the back of the chair with the AH capital letters, very ornate, embroidered, looks also that piece is from overseas, I saw similar colorful blankest in Africa , may be Cameroon . Probably the set was a Gift from some special c\visitor.

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by palaisfan » 01 Jun 2021 22:50

ihoyos wrote:
01 Jun 2021 22:22
I saw that scene many times, but now due the perfect image I can notice some details, never observed before.
Specially the Rattan or Bamboo Chair, well elaborated even with the svastics under the arms , That piece of furniture is very unusual, in Bavarian, even in Germany, nothing to do with typical furniture made of wood of Alpine zones. In my opinion was no made in Germany, but probably, in German African Colony, and also I see the blanket on the back of the chair with the AH capital letters, very ornate, embroidered, looks also that piece is from overseas, I saw similar colorful blankest in Africa , may be Cameroon . Probably the set was a Gift from some special c\visitor.
Agree, that is a very nice copy. When you have good resolution these color cards can be very informative on details. The observation on the furniture is very interesting. As for the date, it is very correct to call it Haus Wachenfeld still, as it is just before the 1936 reconstruction. Would guess 1934-1935.

Thanks for sharing Helly Angel,

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by Hans1906 » 02 Jun 2021 12:21

I would like to recommend a search for "obersalzberg berghof" in the ZVAB. (Zentrales Verzeichnis Antiquarischer Bücher).

Link https://www.zvab.com/servlet/SearchResu ... ghof&sts=t


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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by CPB » 11 Jun 2021 09:02

Does anyone have a hi-res version of this image of the Kehlsteinhaus entranceway, or indeed any other photos of this area?

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Post by Geoff Walden » 12 Jun 2021 15:45

Chris,
Would a modern view help?
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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by CPB » 12 Jun 2021 15:55

Geoff Walden wrote:
12 Jun 2021 15:45
Chris,
Would a modern view help?
Geoff
I’m ideally looking for a period one, but actually a modern one would be good to see too…thanks Geoff.

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Post by Geoff Walden » 14 Jun 2021 15:14

Hope this may help.
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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by CPB » 14 Jun 2021 15:19

Thanks Geoff!

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by headwest » 15 Jun 2021 14:54

Sort of off topic, but since it is in this area, i was wondering if there are inside pics of the tea house? it looked like a large building but i have only seen some video footage and Hitler around a table there

what was in the rest of the place?

and any photos or video of it after the war inside?

thanks!

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by Annelie » 19 Jun 2021 14:56

his book, I Met Hitler, Interviews with Karl Hoeffkes


This book, I Met Hitler, Interviews with Karl Hoeffkes, was published last year. I’ve translated two interviews which I found most interesting. The editing function on this Blog is problematic, so there are some gaps in the text which I can’t fix.

The first interview is from Gretl Mittestrasse, a young woman who was working at the Berghof and becomes Eva Braun’s personal maid. This interview was conducted in the 1980’s

For me this is the first time I have heard about this.......
For me Hitler was always just the Chef. However, privately we hardly had much to say to one another. Every three months the pictures in the Berghof upstairs had to be changed around, Hitler insisted on that. So I had the job to do that and I did not know art nearly as well as the Chef did. During these times when I changed the pictures, Hitler would joke with me because he knew I was no art expert. He himself could name every painter of every art piece

Interesting practice of changing art, of course he must have had quite a few stored somewhere?

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Post by Geoff Walden » 21 Jun 2021 16:16

Hi Annelie,
The results of some of these artwork shufflings can be seen in postcards and photos of the Berghof. For example, in the Great Room, sometimes there was a Madonna by Bugiardini over the fireplace, sometimes nothing there; on the south wall (to the left of the fireplace) sometimes there was a portrait of Helmut von Moltke, but sometimes this portrait hung over the fireplace in Hitler's office, and its place in the Great Room was taken by "Nana" by Feuerbach (usually this "Nana" was on the west wall); there were a couple of Roman ruins scenes by Pannini that appeared in various locations; sometimes Bordone's "Woman with Apple" was on the west wall (Speer called this one "Woman with Exposed Bosom), but sometimes it was elsewhere or stored.
In Hitler's office, the portrait over the fireplace was sometimes the Helmut von Moltke mentioned above, but sometimes Friedrich the Great by Pesne; portraits of Hitler's parents hung on the front wall, but Speer said that the one of Hitler's father was replaced by a portrait of Julius Schreck by Knirr (?).
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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by Annelie » 21 Jun 2021 17:36

Thank you Geoff.

For all the reading material I have and read somehow I missed this bit of information.
I shall be more attentive (hope) in future.

I know artists today are always saying buy more art and move it around but I had
no idea they did this in those days.

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Post by Max » 21 Jun 2021 23:23

I have always assumed that the artworks displayed in the Berghof were Hitler"s private property; legitimately acquired and paid for. Was there ever any suggestion that Hitler displayed looted art works in his private residences or his official offices for that matter?
Likewise for Goering?
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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by v60pih » 22 Jun 2021 11:19

headwest wrote:
15 Jun 2021 14:54
Sort of off topic, but since it is in this area, i was wondering if there are inside pics of the tea house? it looked like a large building but i have only seen some video footage and Hitler around a table there

what was in the rest of the place?

and any photos or video of it after the war inside?

thanks!
Some pictures: http://markfelton.co.uk/publishedbooks/ ... tea-house/

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