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Re: Id. aerial bombs

Post by Sturm78 » 15 Jun 2021 22:43

Grzesio wrote
They are FAB-1000 sv, prewar variant.
Thank you very much for your help, Grzesio... :)

Here, another image from Ebay. As usual, I am not sure if SC250 or SC500....

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Re: Id. aerial bombs

Post by Grzesio » 18 Jun 2021 14:14

I am not sure if SC250 or SC500....
Judging from their size, they are SC 250. Another clue can be suspension lugs mounted on their noses and He 111 in the background - the largest bombs that could be carried vertically by German aircraft (e.g. by the He 111) were of the 250 kg class.
BUT - I've also seen photos of 500 kg bombs with suspension lugs on their noses - but I just think, they were mounted this way for e.g. towing the bombs on the ground.

Small comparison of some German bombs. Please note, some of the bombs lack proper markings, while the SC 500 J Trialen carries an C 500 L marking by mistake. :P
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Re: Id. aerial bombs

Post by Sturm78 » 18 Jun 2021 18:23

Grzesio wrote
udging from their size, they are SC 250. Another clue can be suspension lugs mounted on their noses and He 111 in the background - the largest bombs that could be carried vertically by German aircraft (e.g. by the He 111) were of the 250 kg class.
BUT - I've also seen photos of 500 kg bombs with suspension lugs on their noses - but I just think, they were mounted this way for e.g. towing the bombs on the ground.

Small comparison of some German bombs. Please note, some of the bombs lack proper markings, while the SC 500 J Trialen carries an C 500 L marking by mistake. :P
Thank you very much for the answer and your image, Grzesio ... :wink:

A pity that in the image can not be read the models of the bombs....It would be of great help for future identifications....

Here, another image from Ebay. I think a SC1800 bomb

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Re: Id. aerial bombs

Post by Grzesio » 19 Jun 2021 13:00

Sturm78 wrote:
18 Jun 2021 18:23
Here, another image from Ebay. I think a SC1800 bomb
I think so too.

Well, the captions in the drawing are hardly readable indeed, but they can be generally read after zooming the drawing. :P
Anyway, the bombs are L-R:
SD 70,
SD 50 with sheet metal tail
SD 50 with cast alloy tail
SC 50 JB
SBe 50 C II
SBe 50 A I
AB 70-1 with red stripes (denoting filling with HE bomblets)
ZC 250 A rot with a red nose
NC 250 S
Flam C 250 with two red rings
Brand C 250 A with two red rings and a bottle symbol
SBe 250 C
SD 250 Stg with a red stripe
SC 250 L2 with a yellow stripe
AB 250-2 with a red stripe (HE bomblets)
SC 500 K with a yellow stripe
SC 500 L with a yellow stripe
SC 500 J Trialen with a yellow ship and a drum stabilizer
AB 500-1 with a ring (denoting filling with incendiary bomblets)
SB 1000 with double yellow stripe
PC 1000 RS with a blue field
PC 1600 with a blue stripe
SD 1700 with a yellow-blue-yellow stripe (although a red stripe could also be used)
SC 1800 with a yellow stripe
SB 2500 Trialen with double yellow ships.

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Re: Id. aerial bombs

Post by Sturm78 » 19 Jun 2021 14:52

Thanks, Grzesio... :wink:

Here, an interesting image from Ebay. I think 2x SC250, 2x SC50 or SD70 ?? and B-1 or B-1.3 incendiary bombs

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Re: Id. aerial bombs

Post by Grzesio » 21 Jun 2021 08:51

It's a VERY interesting picture, particularly, its pretty precisely dated - Easter in 1941 was on April 13-14.
The smaller bombs are SC 50, as SD 70 appeared in 1942 only, the bigger ones are SC 250 indeed. The one standing is of quality class III, with welded nose section, also SC 250 B, JC or K, the one in front seems to be of the same type (or SC 250 JB if the nose section is not welded, but I think it is).
But what is most interesting for me, is the marking. The SC 50 on the left hand side already carries white fuse marking (it was black at the beginning of the war), then two of the bombs clearly have their tail cones painted yellow, while the standing SC 250 already has the colour marking in form of the stripes. This gives an approximate idea, where the stripes were introduced.

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Re: Id. aerial bombs

Post by Sturm78 » 22 Jun 2021 22:47

Thanks a lot for the additional information, Grzesio ... :)

Here, a SC500 bomb (I think)

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Re: Id. aerial bombs

Post by Grzesio » 23 Jun 2021 09:07

Yes, it is, judging from the box in the background - SC 500 B, the picture is most probably taken before 1940 (no colour markings on the bomb).

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Re: Id. aerial bombs

Post by Sturm78 » 07 Jul 2021 21:34

Hi all

I am not sure about this heavy bomb ....SC1000L2 ?? :? It seems larger....

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Re: Id. aerial bombs

Post by Sturm78 » 23 Aug 2021 09:42

Nobody for my last image ?

Well, here another image from Ebay. I am not sure if SC500J or SD500....

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Re: Id. aerial bombs

Post by Grzesio » 25 Aug 2021 19:21

They are SD 500 (with no additional letter), filled with Amatol 60/40 (HE code 102) and equipped with ElAZ (25A) fuzes.

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Re: Id. aerial bombs

Post by Sturm78 » 26 Aug 2021 17:41

Grzesio wrote
They are SD 500 (with no additional letter), filled with Amatol 60/40 (HE code 102) and equipped with ElAZ (25A) fuzes.
Thank you very much for your help, Grzesio :wink:

Do you have any idea about the bomb posted on 07 Jul 2021 ?

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Re: Id. aerial bombs

Post by Sturm78 » 02 Sep 2021 20:34

Hi all,

I am not sure about this bomb: PC500, SC500J or SD500 ??

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Re: Id. aerial bombs

Post by Sturm78 » 07 Sep 2021 21:39

Nobody for my last image ?

Well, here another image from Ebay. I am not sure if British or French bombs ...

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Re: Id. aerial bombs

Post by ROLAND1369 » 08 Sep 2021 16:27

I would say from the shape of the bomb casing and fins and markings it is French.The marking MFDN indicates a filling of 80% melinite 20% dinitronapthalene. From the shape of the casing I would guess that they are 100 kilogram GP HE bombs but without somethin for scale they could be 200 KG as well. Both have the same case shape and fin configuration. I can't make out the other markings.

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