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Re: Id. german aircraft

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Post by von thoma » 28 Aug 2021, 00:28

Not French markings.

Without colours it is hard to identify the tail flag...
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Post by John Hilly » 28 Aug 2021, 13:57

Dutch?
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Re: Id. german aircraft

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Post by Denniss » 28 Aug 2021, 20:13

Similar looking RAF/SAAF P-36 variant
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File ... OS)274.jpg
French had their tail painted with Tricolore, the small flag at this position smells like Commonwealth use

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Re: Id. german aircraft

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Post by Sturm78 » 02 Sep 2021, 21:31

Denniss wrote
Similar looking RAF/SAAF P-36 variant
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File ... OS)274.jpg
Ummmhhh...I think the markings of the aircraft of my image are completely different to those of the image of the link...apart of the different engine... :?

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Re: Id. german aircraft

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Post by Denniss » 04 Sep 2021, 12:57

just focus on the tail flag, french had a completely different flag and they marked the complete rear rudder with it
See also this RAF Mohawk in India with different flag in same position https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File ... 2_1943.jpg

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Re: Id. german aircraft

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Post by von thoma » 05 Sep 2021, 00:46

I've searched for that roundel, in every country where it was in service, and couldn't find anything.
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Post by ROLAND1369 » 05 Sep 2021, 15:58

I also have searched all insignia and have come up negative. The only thing I can come up with is an early or poorly done version of the South East Asian version of the British roundel with the red center replaced. This would fit with the employment of H 75s with the Indian Air Force. I realize the tail flag and roundel are not perfect but the letter of the regulation and the implementation of markings by forward units does not always conform.

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Re: Id. german aircraft

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Post by peeved » 05 Sep 2021, 18:22

Repainted by the Germans for propaganda shots/films like this Spitfire from http://www.vintagewings.ca/VintageNews/ ... nd-Up.aspx
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which also has a type B fuselage roundel, fin flash colours in wrong order and similar phony lettering scheme,
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as probably does the 2nd ex-French Hawk 75 too in this pic's background:
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Re: Id. german aircraft

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Post by Sturm78 » 07 Sep 2021, 22:38

Thanks, Markus

Probably you are right

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Re: Id. german aircraft

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Post by Sturm78 » 29 Oct 2021, 16:11

Hi all,

I need help with the exact variant of this Bf 110.
This plane not have the air intake in the nose typical of the "E" but on the other hand have enlarged lower engines oil coolers, as can to be seen on some "E" aircrafts..... :?

Any idea ?

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Re: Id. german aircraft

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Post by von thoma » 29 Oct 2021, 22:34

Those air inlets were used in E-2, E-3/ Trop versions.
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Re: Id. german aircraft

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Post by Sturm78 » 30 Oct 2021, 11:49

von thoma wrote
Those air inlets were used in E-2, E-3/ Trop versions.
Yes, but the E versions had a air intake in the nose (red circle) that does not appear in the plane of my image....

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Re: Id. german aircraft

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Post by Rulaman » 31 Oct 2021, 12:29

Sturm78 wrote:
29 Oct 2021, 16:11
Hi all,

I need help with the exact variant of this Bf 110.
This plane not have the air intake in the nose typical of the "E" but on the other hand have enlarged lower engines oil coolers, as can to be seen on some "E" aircrafts..... :?

Any idea ?

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It a C-version configured for glider-towing duties. You can see parts of the equipment below the fuselage as well as one of the rear-view mirrors in front of the cockpit on the left side (aerodynamic covered). And if you look more closely, you will notice that parts of the tail fairing have been remove to make place for the towing gear. Best Frank

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Re: Id. german aircraft

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Post by Sturm78 » 31 Oct 2021, 15:39

Frank wrote
It a C-version configured for glider-towing duties. You can see parts of the equipment below the fuselage as well as one of the rear-view mirrors in front of the cockpit on the left side (aerodynamic covered). And if you look more closely, you will notice that parts of the tail fairing have been remove to make place for the towing gear.
Thank you very much for your help, Frank...good eye!! :wink:

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Re: Id. german aircraft

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Post by T. A. Gardner » 12 Jan 2022, 02:06

While the aircraft itself is obvious, this is the first time I've seen photos of an Me 323 with two bladed props on the engines. Was this some sort of one-off or a standard variant?

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