Polish minority in Germany in the 1930s

[Futurist]

They were, that was about imigrants and their naturalization.

BTW, I do think that it was rather regrettable on Imperial Germany's part not to have an easy path to immigration and naturalization for talented immigrants. It could have stripped various other parts of Europe of a lot of their cognitively talented people, after all.

[GregSingh]

And here we have official numbers of German citizens with mother's language other than German in some areas:

Foreigners living in Germany by their nationality:

[henryk]

Re: right two columns. I am guessing these are for the Austrian part of Austro-Hungary (ie excludes Hungary).
Why does it exclude Galicia?

[Futurist]

Re: right two columns. I am guessing these are for the Austrian part of Austro-Hungary (ie excludes Hungary).
Why does it exclude Galicia?

How do you know that Galicia is excluded?

[AliasDavid]

Re: right two columns. I am guessing these are for the Austrian part of Austro-Hungary (ie excludes Hungary).
Why does it exclude Galicia?

How do you know that Galicia is excluded?

Both statistics refer to a census whose key date was March 22th, 1934. Footnote ** of the first statistic explicitly states that the territory considered was Austria in the borders of the same date.

[Futurist]

Re: right two columns. I am guessing these are for the Austrian part of Austro-Hungary (ie excludes Hungary).
Why does it exclude Galicia?

How do you know that Galicia is excluded?

Both statistics refer to a census whose key date was March 22th, 1934. Footnote ** of the first statistic explicitly states that the territory considered was Austria in the borders of the same date.

OK, but then Galicia wouldn't be the only 1914 Austrian territory being excluded here. Also excluded would be Dalmatia, Slovenia, South Tyrol, Czechia, and Bukovina.

[GregSingh]

These tables came from early 1939 edition of German statistical yearbook.
They refer to Germany as of mid-1938 (including Austria proper after Anschluss).

Those territories you guys mentioned were not in Germany borders in 1938, so for any details there you have to look at yearbooks of Poland, Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia, etc.

[George L Gregory]

I wonder, were Reich citizens of non-German ancestry allowed to be members of the Hitler Youth before 1939?

The Second Execution Order to the Law on the Hitler Youth ("Youth Service Regulation") (March 25, 1939) stated:

§ 6
German Subjects of Non-German National Origin
(1) Juveniles of German citizenship, whose parents or father belong according to their own statement to the Danish or Polish ethnic groups, are to be exempted from membership in the Hitler Youth on request of those who are charged with their care. If several persons have the right and duty to care for the juvenile person, and not everyone of them makes the request, the juvenile may be exempted from membership in the Hitler Youth on request of those who are charged with their care, if the mother belongs according to her own statement to the Danish or Polish racial groups; they are to be exempted if the guardian agrees to the request.

So already in March 1939 the Nazis were segregating “Germans” and “non-Germans” children who held the same citizenship and therefore the same rights.

[Hans1906]

Fittingly, this feature film from 1990 is worth mentioning:

"Hitlerjunge Salomon" / "Europa Europa"

German https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitlerjunge_Salomon
English https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europa_Europa

Ich war Hitlerjunge Salomon - Sally Perel im Interview / I was Hitler's boy Salomon - Sally Perel in interview

Sally Perel, who was born in Peine in 1925, survived the National Socialist era as a Jew and as a member of the Hitler Youth in a boarding school in Braunschweig. He published his autobiography under the title "Ich war Hitlerjunge Salomon", which was also made into a film. Today, he lives in Israel, but is also in Germany from time to time, where he lectures as a contemporary witness, especially in schools, about his experiences. On the occasion of a visit to Magdeburg in 1998, Bettina Wiengarn talked to him about his life in the studio of Offener Kanal.

Herr Sally Perel https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sally_Perel


Hans

[wm]

So giving minorities a choice is segregation?
Actually, the Polish minority demanded the exclusion from mandatory enrolment in the Hitler Youth and similar organizations - because their main goal was the creation of good Germans and they didn't want to be Germans, even if good.

[George L Gregory]

So giving minorities a choice is segregation?
Actually, the Polish minority demanded the exclusion from mandatory enrolment in the Hitler Youth and similar organizations - because their main goal was the creation of good Germans and they didn't want to be Germans, even if good.

They were hardy given a “choice”.

What is your source that the Polish minority “demanded” to be excluded from the Hitler Youth?

[wm]

It is from the pre-war right-wing weekly "Prosto z Mostu." They had a huge article about it.

[George L Gregory]

It is from the pre-war right-wing weekly "Prosto z Mostu." They had a huge article about it.

Can you try and get a link?

Thanks.

[henryk]

Re: right two columns. I am guessing these are for the Austrian part of Austro-Hungary (ie excludes Hungary).
Why does it exclude Galicia?

How do you know that Galicia is excluded?

Both statistics refer to a census whose key date was March 22th, 1934. Footnote ** of the first statistic explicitly states that the territory considered was Austria in the borders of the same date.

AliasDavid
Thank you for for your answer to my question.
Henryk

[George L Gregory]

Full text of "German Imperial and State Citizenship Law. July 22, 1913":

https://archive.org/stream/jstor-221231 ... 1_djvu.txt