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Post by uncle » 15 Dec 2021, 19:34

Hi all.
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Post by SIS 5 » 15 Dec 2021, 19:38

Hin Sturm 78,

a very interesting question about the Mercedes-Benz type G 3 a. You are right, it is a subvariant of the Kfz. 62.
It is a vehicle of a Beobachtungsabteilung (have a look on the invitation of the Beobachtungsabteilung for a stew lunch). It cannot be a flash-light analysing motor vehicle or a Wetterkraftwagen – weather motor vehicle or a print shop motor vehicle, because these vehicles have another superstructure. So it could be a Stabsauswertekraftwagen - staff analysing motor vehicle or a Schallauswertewagen - sound analysing motor vehicle. Here a pic of such a vehicle (source: Handbuch für Heerestaktik des Lehrstabes für Heerestaktik beim Reichsministerium der Luftfahrt 1939).

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Post by T. A. Gardner » 15 Dec 2021, 21:17

arminfreitag wrote:
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Hi T. A. Gardner
the vehicle is definitely a Bergepz 38 and not any prototype APC.
In the marked are you can see the base for the 2t crane.

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That was my guess. Looks like two of them there, the second is a bit to the left in the picture and has the metal frames in place for the canvas top.

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Post by Sturm78 » 15 Dec 2021, 23:01

Bert wrote
a very interesting question about the Mercedes-Benz type G 3 a. You are right, it is a subvariant of the Kfz. 62.
It is a vehicle of a Beobachtungsabteilung (have a look on the invitation of the Beobachtungsabteilung for a stew lunch). It cannot be a flash-light analysing motor vehicle or a Wetterkraftwagen – weather motor vehicle or a print shop motor vehicle, because these vehicles have another superstructure. So it could be a Stabsauswertekraftwagen - staff analysing motor vehicle or a Schallauswertewagen - sound analysing motor vehicle. Here a pic of such a vehicle (source: Handbuch für Heerestaktik des Lehrstabes für Heerestaktik beim Reichsministerium der Luftfahrt 1939).
Thanks for your reply, Bert

I think that there are also other two possibilities: Kfz.62 Vermessungsauswertekraftwagen (surveying evaluation motor vehicle) or Kfz.62 Schallaufnahmekraftwagen (sound recording motor vehicle) ... :?

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Post by SIS 5 » 16 Dec 2021, 01:22

Hi Sturm 78,

thank You very much for the correction and the expansion of the possible motor vehicles.
When we have a look on the structure of a Beobachtungsabteilung, is it right, that this Abteilung had:
1 Stabsauswertekraftwagen - staff analysing motor vehicle Kfz. 62,
2 Wetterkraftwagen – weather motor vehicles Kfz. 62,
1 Druckereikraftwagen – print shop motor vehicle Kfz. 62,
2 Vermessungsauswertekraftwagen - surveying evaluation motor vehicles Kfz. 62,
4 Lichtmeßstellenkraftwagen - flash light measuring point motor vehicles Kfz. 63,
3 Lichtmessauswertekraftwagen - flash-light analysing motor vehicles Kfz. 62,
4 Schallaufnahmekraftwagen - sound recording motor vehicles Kfz. 62 or 63,
4 Schallauswertewagen - sound analysing motor vehicles Kfz. 62?

Thanks in advance for an answer.

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Bert

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Post by Maxschnauzer » 16 Dec 2021, 06:14

uncle wrote:
15 Dec 2021, 19:34
Hi all.
Hello uncle. Alexander and Hoss65. This is a very interesting problem. Other GM cars of the era besides the Cadillac had similar headlamp mounting struts, such as the Chevy shown here:
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The problem is that none had the stamped plate type bonnet louvers as on the subject car or the GAZ A (or the Ford Model A for that matter).
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Post by Sturm78 » 16 Dec 2021, 22:28

Bert wrote
thank You very much for the correction and the expansion of the possible motor vehicles.
When we have a look on the structure of a Beobachtungsabteilung, is it right, that this Abteilung had:
1 Stabsauswertekraftwagen - staff analysing motor vehicle Kfz. 62,
2 Wetterkraftwagen – weather motor vehicles Kfz. 62,
1 Druckereikraftwagen – print shop motor vehicle Kfz. 62,
2 Vermessungsauswertekraftwagen - surveying evaluation motor vehicles Kfz. 62,
4 Lichtmeßstellenkraftwagen - flash light measuring point motor vehicles Kfz. 63,
3 Lichtmessauswertekraftwagen - flash-light analysing motor vehicles Kfz. 62,
4 Schallaufnahmekraftwagen - sound recording motor vehicles Kfz. 62 or 63,
4 Schallauswertewagen - sound analysing motor vehicles Kfz. 62?

Thanks in advance for an answer.
Sorry Bert....I'm afraid I can't help you with this question... :(

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Post by Sturm78 » 16 Dec 2021, 22:30

Hi all,

Could be this Kfz.42 truck a Borgward 3ton ??

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Post by Maxschnauzer » 18 Dec 2021, 05:53

Hi Sturm,
Yes, and a nice picture of one too.
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Post by Sturm78 » 18 Dec 2021, 10:58

Thanks for your confirmation, Max.. :wink:

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Post by Sturm78 » 22 Dec 2021, 14:24

Hi all,

Another Mercedes-Benz G3a. Any idea about the exact Kfz. subvariant ?

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Post by AlifRafikKhan » 25 Dec 2021, 05:14

Hi, what is the name of these two vehicles? Is the one at the back a Kübelwagen?

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Post by Maxschnauzer » 25 Dec 2021, 06:55

Hi Alif,
Well, right off I can say the one in the back is a SIMCA 8 cabriolet ca.1939. The other will take some digging but is most likely French as well.
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Post by AlifRafikKhan » 25 Dec 2021, 10:47

Thank you Max

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Post by dredd4213 » 25 Dec 2021, 15:05

Hi all,
Could you please help me with the identification of this car:
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