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Re: Request for Identification of SS-officers

Post by Peter » 02 Feb 2022 14:39

I agree, I reckon that is a Black Wound Badge and I think the officers cap and belt buckle indicate an SS-Sturmscharführer he does seem to have the Sipo type shoulder strap so maybe no SD raute as a former Schupo?

The button hole ribbon might be a 1914 EK-2 but it might also be a KVK-2 which were quite liberally awarded to Einsatzgruppen I believe (as well as most of the remainder of German units).

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Re: Request for Identification of SS-officers

Post by steve248 » 02 Feb 2022 15:34

There were a couple of SS-Stuscha. with EK 8 but only one seems to be the one in question here. And most probably called up in 1917 or 1918 as cannon fodder.
SS-Stuscha. Krim.Sek. Peter Seibert (born 30 Sep. 1900, Bingen; died 25 Dec. 1958, Essen). In the photos the group are not wearing winter clothes so probably taken in summer or late summer 1941 or summer 1942.
Unfortunately with Seibert dead before the West German police got round to investigating EK 8, and not being an officer, information is sparse.
I have no information about his role in 1941 but from Oct. 1941 until late summer 1942 he was deputy commander, Teiltrupp 5, under SS-Ostuf., KK Walter Döring. In EK 8 they used the term Teiltrupp rather than Teilkommando.
Doring's Teiltrupp and Seibert during the spring and summer of 1942 were stationed in Borissow and killed many Jewish inhabitants of the surrounding villages that year.
Döring tried and re-tried in mid 1960s, convicted both times.

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Re: Request for Identification of SS-officers

Post by mil-archive » 02 Feb 2022 16:21

Thanks all for the information - lots to read up on there.

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Re: Request for Identification of SS-officers

Post by JoeW » 02 Feb 2022 17:42

Andrey wrote:
02 Feb 2022 09:27
It is SS-Of. Hebert Stenger.
Andrey.
Uhhh, doesn't look like the same guy you and others ID'd as Stenger back in 2016 here.
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Compare...
SS Oberfuhrer Herbert Stenger.JPG
Or is it just the viewing angle?
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Re: Request for Identification of SS-officers

Post by Michal78 » 02 Feb 2022 20:09

I can confirm it is Herbert Stenger. Here is my photo of this SS-Oberführer to compare.

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Re: Request for Identification of SS-officers

Post by JoeW » 02 Feb 2022 20:14

Thank you.

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Re: Request for Identification of SS-officers

Post by kstdk » 04 Feb 2022 19:32

Hello

Who is the officers behind AH and BM?

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Re: Request for Identification of SS-officers

Post by Totenkomf » 04 Feb 2022 19:37

kstdk wrote:
04 Feb 2022 19:32
Hello

Who is the officers behind AH and BM?

Regards
Kurt
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The SS-Gruppenführer is Julius Schaub.
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Re: Request for Identification of SS-officers

Post by kstdk » 05 Feb 2022 00:47

Hello

@Totenkomf - thanks for the ID. Is the location Wolfschanze?

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Re: Request for Identification of SS-officers

Post by Totenkomf » 05 Feb 2022 00:59

kstdk wrote:
05 Feb 2022 00:47
Hello

@Totenkomf - thanks for the ID. Is the location Wolfschanze?

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No problem. at least I recognized Shaub :m :milwink: .Yes the location is Wolfschanze.
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Re: Request for Identification of SS-officers

Post by bubalma » 05 Feb 2022 03:32

Paul Schmidt - Hitler's translator - next to Schaub.
Probably Karl Wolff behind Schaub.

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Re: Request for Identification of SS-officers

Post by von thoma » 05 Feb 2022 07:10

Probably Karl Wolff behind Schaub
Not Karl Wolff, more likely Heinz Linge, or another Hitler aide.
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Re: Request for Identification of SS-officers

Post by Giovanni59 » 05 Feb 2022 17:10

Who is this SS-Gruppenführer?
(My photo)
Thanks for the replies.
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Re: Request for Identification of SS-officers

Post by Totenkomf » 05 Feb 2022 17:29

Giovanni59 wrote:
05 Feb 2022 17:10
Who is this SS-Gruppenführer?
(My photo)
Thanks for the replies.
Giovanni

SS Gruppenführer fotoR 197.jpg
He seems to be a SS-Brigadeführer, I am not too sure about his identity but I can try and look it up.
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Re: Request for Identification of SS-officers

Post by Andrey » 05 Feb 2022 17:55

Giovanni59 wrote:
05 Feb 2022 17:10
Who is this SS-Gruppenführer?
(My photo)
Thanks for the replies.
Giovanni

SS Gruppenführer fotoR 197.jpg
Hi Giovanni,

It`s nice photo of the Ministerialdirektor and SS-Brif. Dr.jur. Willy Meerwald.
Thanks,

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