No, we do not know that Poland engaged in a "considerable and extraordinarily provocative ethnic cleansing of German-speakers, most of them been in place for 100s of years". What we do know is that Poland had been partitioned twice by the Germans (Austrians and Prussians) and was literally non-existent on any map for a very long time. I don't mean to sound too rude, but are you really going to cite Bromberg as an example of Poles ethnically cleansing Germans? Are you kidding me? Whom are you trying to fool? Are you aware of the Polish–Teutonic War (1326–1332)? Are you aware of what the Teutonic Knights actually did? The Germans had been trying for a very long time to capture (and later recapture) the region. In the late 18th century during the Prussian Partition of Poland the region became part of West Prussia and thus under German rule. It then became under Polish rule and then became under German rule again and was actually part of the German Empire. After WW1 and during the interwar years the people who wanted to stay there had to acquire Polish citizenship which in turn led to the number of ethnic Germans living there to decrease. That's not a form of ethnic cleansing at all.NickA wrote: ↑07 Feb 2022 04:41All very fine - perhaps some big lies have been told. But we know that Poland was engaged in a considerable and extraordinarily provocative ethnic cleansing of German-speakers, most of them been in place for 100s of years.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's an ethnic cleansing, 85% in 7(?) years (1919 - 1926) in the "town" and 57% in "district". We know what followed 60% forced emigration of Jews from Germany in 6 years (1933 to 1939) - Poland was very far along this track, with the very important German outlier of Danzig also being ethnically cleansed. I don't know of Germans and Germany doing anything like that until the expulsion of (alleged illegally immigrated post-1919) Jewish Polish citizens in November 1938.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bydgoszcz#History wrote:In 1910 the city [Bromberg] had 57,700 inhabitants of which 84 percent were Germans and 16 percent Poles. In 1919 Bromberg was assigned to Poland by the Paris Peace Conference and the Versailles Treaty. ... The local populace were required to acquire Polish citizenship or leave the country. This led to a steady and significant decline of ethnic Germans, whose number within the town decreased from 74,292 in 1910 to 11,016 in 1926 and from 31,212 to 13,281 within the district. In 1938 it was made part of the Pomeranian Voivodeship.
What books about the history of Poland have you read? If you think that Poles just suddenly turned on the Germans who happened to live in Polish territories for no reason then you're largely ignorant about the conflict between Germany and Poland. The Germans dominated Europe for centuries and they invaded, conqeured and annexed many territories during that long period. There are many areas of modern-day Germany and Poland that are ethnically mixed between Germans and Poles because the territories have been under German rule and then Polish rule and vice versa many times.
Do you take hearsay to be factual?And its alleged that these severe Polish provocations were even more serious than that, they extended into Germany:
Clearly, something was going on - nationally and culturally and militarily and economically, Poland was provoking Germany to some small or great extent. Our history is deeply flawed if we ignore what pressures acted on Hitler and the Germans.G.H. Ohio, USA wrote:"I lived in Germany during the 1980's when many people who lived during the war were still alive. I sought out anyone who lived near Poland in 1939 and was lucky enough to meet several people. One was a customs official who said it was so bad on the border they were armed and also had grenades in their office ready for attacks.
Another told me his farm animals were often stolen by Polish (Jewish?) terrorists. Another told of his niece being raped by a Pole (Jew?) who crossed the border. He told me in 1940 they caught the man and showed me a copy of the death order signed by Heydrich, in which he ordered the man put to death.
This is just one of many stories told to me by German civilians who witnessed these border incursions just like had happened in 1919-1928. One thing many people fail to see is that Poland openly attacked Germany right after World War I, which led to many border battles. Once Germany started pressing Poland to work out a solution to the corridor, the attacks started again. And one thing that is clear to me is that Germany did not make up these attacks."
I'm participating here to try and discover, in part, what more is known about these very important factors before 1939. If we really forced WW2 on the world by partitioning Germany, it would be very foolish of us to try to force the same thing on Russia. Especially since this will look like a pincer momvent on China.
Where did that person get his information from exactly? A quick Google search of some of the text that you quoted shows that it's simply been copied and pasted on sites like Stormfront and other Nazi fanboy websites. Why has no respectable historian ever quoted that text?
Who is Marcus S. King? A quote from the text shows that it's been used in his books The Bad War: The Truth Never Taught about World War II, Planet Rothschild: The Forbidden History of the New World and The British Mad Dog: Debunking the Myth of Winston Churchill. Those books are based on conspiracy theories including Holocaust denial and the New World Order.
Are you convinced by such claptrap?