1945 Lost German girl

[wirklich]

Correct...the very funny one.

[wirklich]

Wasn't he a Luftwaffe Oberfeldwebel played by John Banner in Hogan's Heroes..

Correct...the very funny one.

[Totenkomf]

Wasn't he a Luftwaffe Oberfeldwebel played by John Banner in Hogan's Heroes..

Correct...the very funny one.

Yes, he was funny. But back to the main topic..

[wirklich]

I think I have found pictures that show what trousers the woman is wearing. Luftwaffe M43 Keilhose. Rundbundhosen.
The trousers she wears have side and a single rear pocket with flaps that have a distinctive shape. The flaps close with a single plastic button.
On the left side can be seen the adjustment strap that uses a silver metal buckle. Forward of the buckle is a belt loop. The braces use silver metal dish pan buttons instead of plastic. The 2 belt loops on the front are missing. The flap for the watch pocket is more rectangular than the Militaria Plaza trousers. There is a metal chain ring above the watch pocket. The waist closes with a single external plastic button. The fly has internal buttons.

Both of the trousers below have the chain ring. The Militaria Plaza trousers have pocket flaps. Th LUX do not. That is the only difference I see.

https://militariaplaza.nl/uniforms/luft ... e-1-detail

https://www.lux-military-antiques.com/e ... users-.htm
+++These are ink stamped with a Luftwaffe acceptance mark.+++

I have been up 21 hours, I am tired.

Take some pervitin and you'll stay up no problemos..
So she wears Luftwaffe Pants, so was she then part of a Luftwaffe Unit or just wore those LF pants?.

pervitin...jolly joker! Says sergeant Schultz.
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=di ... 6PC%3dLCTS

A light little joke, didn't you get it?. Sergeant Schulz?

Yes. I thought it was funny. Do you know who seargeat Schultz was?

I wrote some more about the woman possibly being a civilian DAF worker. And how Haglund may have indentified the soldiers and woman as "SS" but when I saved my draft it deleted it instead.
It was easier to just add the pervitin video rather than type it over.
I have been up for 19 hours.

[Totenkomf]

"Easier to add the pervitin video', I think posting the word is more easier. How did Haglund Identify the woman as "SS Girl".. Strange as she does not wear any uniform?

Go to sleep if you have stayed up for so long.

[bentleyhugh]

Spielburg film story RG-60.4106 TAPE 2735 at 15:57 16:00 looks like the same girl to me.
This shows the direction of travel.
The intersection of route 7 and route 27 on google maps present day is pretty close to 78k from Praha.
Note derelict airfield south,large building (Vysocany).
Also girl is seen at 00:45 on RG-60.2390 TAPE 2260.
She is wearing a mans jacket and is holding onto a man wearing (5 button) ss waffen jacket.

Hello,
This post by brick many moons ago insired me to enhance the stills within the film he mentions to positively ID if she is LGG. I used adobe on a Mac. They most certainly are without a doubt her. They are too big of a file to post it seems. Her boyfriend is very clear and while all ensignas have been ripped off he looks to be important as he’s the only one that looks to be clean shaven with well groomed hair. He is young. It seems as if she is very frightened and trying to melt into both his oversized coat and the ground itself. A few rows behind them marching is another woman but she is not trying to hide so much and seems to be helping an older guy walk. She is laughing at something it seems. It’s great to look at the facial expressions of everyone matching . Some are jovial while a few look worried. Lots of injured in this column though
I think it might be easier to ID the boyfriend
Not sure where to start but that just seems like it might be easier.


It just occurred to me that perhaps it was not the best idea for LGG to be wearing what appears to be a SS coat. Probably not a good tactic for blending in and hiding. Lot of civilians mixed in with this column as well.

[Totenkomf]

Spielburg film story RG-60.4106 TAPE 2735 at 15:57 16:00 looks like the same girl to me.
This shows the direction of travel.
The intersection of route 7 and route 27 on google maps present day is pretty close to 78k from Praha.
Note derelict airfield south,large building (Vysocany).
Also girl is seen at 00:45 on RG-60.2390 TAPE 2260.
She is wearing a mans jacket and is holding onto a man wearing (5 button) ss waffen jacket.

Hello,
This post by brick many moons ago insired me to enhance the stills within the film he mentions to positively ID if she is LGG. I used adobe on a Mac. They most certainly are without a doubt her. They are too big of a file to post it seems. Her boyfriend is very clear and while all ensignas have been ripped off he looks to be important as he’s the only one that looks to be clean shaven with well groomed hair. He is young. It seems as if she is very frightened and trying to melt into both his oversized coat and the ground itself. A few rows behind them marching is another woman but she is not trying to hide so much and seems to be helping an older guy walk. She is laughing at something it seems. It’s great to look at the facial expressions of everyone matching . Some are jovial while a few look worried. Lots of injured in this column though
I think it might be easier to ID the boyfriend
Not sure where to start but that just seems like it might be easier.

Maybe the "boyfriend" was an Officer or NCO either in the: Heer, Luftwaffe or the SS who just had removed his insignia, shoulders boards and awards from the uniform or just swapped into a another uniform.

[bentleyhugh]

Another observation that is interesting is LGG and her boyfriend are not carrying packs or gear. Seems like everyone else is. They just look out of place in this column for sure
The few soldiers walking alongside this column as guards have red and black flags on their sleeves, I don’t think are US ARMY but there is a US JEEP driving along side as well. Not enough guards to stop any effort by the locals so the narrative on how she was injured seems to hold up

[Saul]

I wonder if the tools like the channel "chronos-media history" uses, could be used with the videos where LGG and her boyfriend are supposed to be in, to get a more clearly video. The channel already remasterized the LGG's clip and it looks so well in the video "Flight and Expulsion of germans from Czechoslovakia" min 6:53
link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx7A6DcuU3A

[Totenkomf]

The channel already remasterized the LGG's clip and it looks so well in the video "Flight and Expulsion of germans from Czechoslovakia" min 6:53
link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx7A6DcuU3A

I have seen this video, and in good quality no less. Also in the video is an middle-aged SS-Obersturmbannführer talking pretty chattily with the Americans they are even seen opening a bottle of Alcohol (Champagne/Wine) together.

[hsa601]

@ Totenkomf - Could I ask you why you spelled your handle wrong?

[Totenkomf]

@ Totenkomf - Could I ask you why you spelled your handle wrong?

I did not spell my handle/username wrong as I purposefully replaced the p with m so that my username wouldn't be literally the Death's Head or Totenkopf for I consider it to be edgy and too much used.

Seems pretty off topic question,
But what name is hsa?

[Totenkomf]

@ Totenkomf - Could I ask you why you spelled your handle wrong?

I think you are trying to rile me up with such question, but hey let's play nicely. Do you have something regarding the topic that we are discussing here..?

[bentleyhugh]

Maybe the boyfriend is a husband? But they are definitely a couple. I think researching people that were in close proximity that day is an option that needs more exploring.

I had a trauma surgeon who I’m friends with analyze LGG injuries and she believes she had a concussion and that it was probably a rifle butt used based on imprint left. This blow may have caused symptoms akin to a stroke and that may be why at one point it looked like she was trying to talk but did not. She thinks she was pregnant but I do not grasp her reasoning on this.
I think enlisting a pro to enhance lots of these clips would be awesome and it would help many other families see their loved ones on camera as well. I’m sure many we see in these never made it back home.

I’ve read in many US ARMY divisional reports and I’ve seen it in these films, but the women marching with the German military as they were surrendering would dress like men and they would put only a few in each column as a means of protection..
I’m starting to think that the pants everyone debates about belonged to her guy and the SS coat that she no longer wearing when she stumbled into the filmographier is a big reason why she was targeted. No way I would have marched that route wearing that coat.

Perhaps a pro German lip reader would be a good angle as well

[Totenkomf]

Maybe the boyfriend is a husband? But they are definitely a couple.

They could have been either of those or just "friends" but Maybe those first two explanations are more plausible.