SS-Division "Handschar" photos

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Re: SS-Division "Handschar" photos

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Re: SS-Division "Handschar" photos

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Re: SS-Division "Handschar" photos

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Post by Admin-handzar.jimdo » 17 Feb 2022, 14:31

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Re: SS-Division "Handschar" photos

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Post by Ivan Ž. » 17 Feb 2022, 15:05

Hello,

Please credit the sources for each image you posted as is required by the forum rules that you agreed with upon registering.
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Provide sources for your photos in the same way that you cite written sources. It is not enough to write "Google" or "eBay"; you must specify the specific website or seller name. If you can't remember, you must write so. If you post a photograph from your own collection, write so either on the photo or in your post.
Please do not advertise a website that is packed with copyright-infringing material (your website), as is required by the forum rules.
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Do not post or link to copyright-infringing material. This includes, but is not limited to, file-sharing websites with unauthorized scans of books, articles, music, and videos.
You have uploaded almost all images from the heavily illustrated book "Himmler's Bosnian Division" on your website, the book that was written by the very host of this forum section, George Lepre.

I will also kindly ask you not to copy material from my blog without crediting the sources and the author, as I already appealed on the blog itself.

Finally, please don't advertise any website that publishes history-damaging misinformation, photomontages and fantasy items, like these for example, found on your website and/or posted here by yourself:

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By the way, when you cross out a nation's coat of arms comparing it to extreme political movements, as you did on your website with the Serbian coat of arms, no one's going to take your claim seriously that the site is: "Historical-historical portal in which we have not offended anyone, and we do not intend to encourage hate."

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Re: SS-Division "Handschar" photos

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Post by Admin-handzar.jimdo » 17 Feb 2022, 17:08

I didn't know this was a fake

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Re: SS-Division "Handschar" photos

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Post by FlyingStukas » 18 Feb 2022, 17:32

Poot wrote:
15 Feb 2022, 22:57
That's quite a trove of photos.

One thing I find striking is that Handschar photos I've seen in the past showed soldiers using Beutewaffen of all kinds; Czech MGs, French Tanks, etc. These show the soldiers fielding standard, up to date issued German small arms, and a Stug. AFV.
From the numerous of photos I've seen, "Handschar" men were better supplied than men of the Prinz Eugen, for instance. MG-42's, latest camouflage patterns and armored trucks. Wonder why that is.

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Re: SS-Division "Handschar" photos

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Post by FlyingStukas » 18 Feb 2022, 17:46

By the way, those are some phenomenal photos.

Would you be so kind to add dates, locations and sources to them?

Thank you.

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Re: SS-Division "Handschar" photos

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Post by Huska » 19 Feb 2022, 13:38

I don't know if this was discussed in the previous pages of this forum but, when Ivan already posted these "original and fake pictures", does somebody know if this picture is fake?

Sorry, I don't know the real source of the image.
SOURCE OF THE BLACK AND WHITE ONE:
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Re: SS-Division "Handschar" photos

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Post by Poot » 20 Feb 2022, 08:24

FlyingStukas wrote:
18 Feb 2022, 17:32
Poot wrote:
15 Feb 2022, 22:57
That's quite a trove of photos.

One thing I find striking is that Handschar photos I've seen in the past showed soldiers using Beutewaffen of all kinds; Czech MGs, French Tanks, etc. These show the soldiers fielding standard, up to date issued German small arms, and a Stug. AFV.
From the numerous of photos I've seen, "Handschar" men were better supplied than men of the Prinz Eugen, for instance. MG-42's, latest camouflage patterns and armored trucks. Wonder why that is.
Thanks for clarifying that. I confused the Prinz Eugen photos for those of the Handschar, apparently.
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Re: SS-Division "Handschar" photos

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Post by FlyingStukas » 21 Feb 2022, 03:22

Poot wrote:
20 Feb 2022, 08:24
FlyingStukas wrote:
18 Feb 2022, 17:32
Poot wrote:
15 Feb 2022, 22:57
That's quite a trove of photos.

One thing I find striking is that Handschar photos I've seen in the past showed soldiers using Beutewaffen of all kinds; Czech MGs, French Tanks, etc. These show the soldiers fielding standard, up to date issued German small arms, and a Stug. AFV.
From the numerous of photos I've seen, "Handschar" men were better supplied than men of the Prinz Eugen, for instance. MG-42's, latest camouflage patterns and armored trucks. Wonder why that is.
Thanks for clarifying that. I confused the Prinz Eugen photos for those of the Handschar, apparently.
No problem. Both operated in Bosnia & the Balkans and its easy to be confused. PE really did use a lot of Beutewaffen - mostly Czech Zb VZ. machine guns, also captured French Hotchkiss tanks.. the Division was not as nearly as supplies as the Handshcar Division was.

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Re: SS-Division "Handschar" photos

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Post by Huska » 28 Feb 2022, 14:18

Document that shows Adolf Hitler giving the name "Handschar" to the 13th Waffen SS Mountain Division.


I found the document on some Bosnian Handschar forum but don't know the real source!
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Re: SS-Division "Handschar" photos

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Post by George Lepre » 28 Feb 2022, 23:47

Hello -

In the National Archives II, it can be found in Records Group 242, Microcopy T-175, Roll 70.

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Post by Ivan Ž. » 01 Mar 2022, 00:15

... and the original can be found in the Bundesarchiv, NS 19/2601 (the above is the NARA photocopy, mentioned by George).

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Re: SS-Division "Handschar" photos

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