Chechens in Russo-Ukrainian war

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Chechens in Russo-Ukrainian war

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Post by Cult Icon » 30 Mar 2022, 18:21

Are they motivated to fight for Putin or not really? Just recruiting warlike people who want to fight in a war?

The Chechen National Guard forces have been fighting in Mariupol and making considerable advances there.

Rally for second wave of Chechen forces:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpqgDSlZnY4&t=378s
Friends, members of the Chechen special forces: Akhmat-Khadzhi Kadyrov Special Purpose Police Regiment, 141st Akhmat-Khadzhi Kadyrov Regiment, Akhmat-Grozny OMON, Akhmat-Krepost OMON, Akhmat SOBR, private security regiment, 249 th battalion, as well as thousands of volunteers, including my close relatives, are waging a fierce struggle against the Nazi evil spirits in Ukraine. They chose this noble path for the sake of our peaceful future. ⠀

About 10,000 volunteers from among the law enforcement officers of the Chechen Republic expressed their full readiness to perform tasks of any complexity within the framework of a special military operation in Ukraine. Our valiant brothers are ready, on the first order of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief Vladimir Putin, to advance to the hottest spots. Every day the number of people willing to help our brothers in Ukraine is steadily growing.

Without any doubt, this is a clear indication that we are fighting for a just cause. ⠀ Every day we witnessed the monstrous crimes of nationalists against their own people, countless encroachments on religion and other values ​​of society. The Kyiv elite for many years diligently turned a blind eye to these atrocities. Moreover, such activities were actively encouraged by those in power. The entire “civilized” world demonstrated a unified position, which, among other things, implied indifference to the fate of hundreds of thousands of residents of Donbass.

No negotiations will bring a visible result, because Zelensky and his entourage are puppets in the hands of Western countries. ⠀ The Ukrainian people must decide their own destiny on the example of the Chechen people. The first President of the Chechen Republic, Hero of Russia Akhmat-Khadzhi Kadyrov on March 23, 2003 provided this opportunity. Our people have made their choice in favor of a peaceful and prosperous life as part of a great power - Russia. Power must be in the hands of the citizens. History shows us that this is the only true path. ⠀

I am immensely proud of everyone who burns with the desire to end this madness. Our fighters fight with honor in the most difficult areas. This is not just a struggle for life, this is a great mission, begun with the goal of forever eradicating fascism cursed by all peoples. And we are ready to give our lives along the way! that this is the only true way!
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Re: Chechens in Russo-Ukrainian war

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Post by Yuri » 30 Mar 2022, 18:42

CNN Indonesia
Momen Ramzan Kadyrov Pimpin Pasukan Serang Kota Mariupol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-t2lop25Bc

Detik-detik Tentara Chechnya Baku Tembak Tanpa Henti Dengan Azov di Ukraina Sambil Tersenyum
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9Ny7CV2aig
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JlVMbi8mF0


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Post by wm » 01 Apr 2022, 08:35

Kadyrov's father was a supporter of the late (and basically a good guy) Dzhokhar Dudayev.
Kadyrov fought against Chechen fundamentalists (and later paid with his life for that) and lost - so he asked the Russians for help.
From then on it was along the lines of "every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business, and eventually degenerates into a racket."
Today the Kadyrovites are in the final stage.

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Post by Yuri » 01 Apr 2022, 10:56

wm wrote:
01 Apr 2022, 08:35
From then on it was along the lines of "every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business, and eventually degenerates into a racket."
Today the Kadyrovites are in the final stage.
And, may I ask, which side are you an expert in racketeering, from the In or the Out?

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Post by Cult Icon » 01 Apr 2022, 15:05

The Chechens have been assigned what may prove the most difficult area in Mariupol- the Azov Steel and Iron works, the stronghold in the middle of the city. This area is built like the factory systems in Stalingrad. While the remains of the city is likely to be cleared at a routine speed, the Steel Mill is a natural fortress.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azovstal_ ... teel_works

The Russians have been using thermobarbaric ammunition in Mariupol, this is consistent with a talk I watched with an American military advisor in Ukr (literally commenting how brutal and effective this ammunition is, and unfortunate that the US abandoned these weapons due to its cruelty). Either this last bastion will hold out longer than expected or the Russians will have to use a lot of ammunition on it.

The Ukr have been resupplying with helicopter convoys and some were shot down in the past 48 hrs.

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Post by Cult Icon » 01 Apr 2022, 15:19

wm wrote:
01 Apr 2022, 08:35
Today the Kadyrovites are in the final stage.
I don't know much about the Chechens however I do know that their leadership and paramilitary forces have been accused of many human rights abuses and assassinations.

The Chechen National Guard have been the most visible Russian participants besides the DNP in this conflict, putting them next to the Ukr in the use of propaganda. Meanwhile the Russian military have been opaque.

The Chechen leaders are very concerned with public image and have been making propaganda videos and public appearances all the time. They are show-offs and outside of Chechnya they look like a parody of a 3rd world dictatorship.

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Re: Chechens in Russo-Ukrainian war

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Post by Yuri » 01 Apr 2022, 15:39

Cult Icon wrote:
01 Apr 2022, 15:05
The Russians have been using thermobarbaric ammunition in Mariupol, this is consistent with a talk I watched with an American military advisor in Ukr (literally commenting how brutal and effective this ammunition is, and unfortunate that the US abandoned these weapons due to its cruelty). Either this last bastion will hold out longer than expected or the Russians will have to use a lot of ammunition on it.

The Ukr have been resupplying with helicopter convoys and some were shot down in the past 48 hrs.
No, not "to its cruelty". The US abandoned these weapons because of the complexity of manufacturing, transportation, storage and, most importantly, the difficulty of using thermobaric ammunition.
Soviet specialists managed to find a solution to these most difficult problems.

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At the moment, according to reports from Mariupol, it is at the Azovstal plant that the most intensive work of the People's Militia of the DPR and the Armed Forces of Russia is underway. There is no point in carrying out a sweep there and incurring losses in conditions when the militants have turned the territory of the enterprise into a fortified area. Therefore, other methods are used to eliminate one of the largest groups of "Azov"* in Mariupol. Various types of weapons are being fired at militants trying to hide on Azovstal. The enemy is suffering heavy losses, he is disorganized. It is already impossible to hide behind concrete structures. The Ukrainian nationalist formations remaining on the territory of the plant understand that there will be no unblocking by other detachments like them.

This leads to the fact that the militants are trying to get out of the Left Bank and other areas of the city under the guise of civilians.

However, many of them are given tattoos of the Azov corps and other Nazi symbols. Only over the past day, about one and a half hundred militants were detained while trying to leave Mariupol through humanitarian corridors. They tried to blend in with the crowd of civilians, but they could not get past the checkpoints unnoticed. Were detained. About a hundred more militants, dressed in civilian clothes, attempted to approach the checkpoints and open fire. 93 militants were eliminated.

And these are eyewitness accounts of how the national battalions, before the start of the Russian operation in Mariupol, delivered armored vehicles directly to the territory of the plant:
"The APU is delivering tanks to Azovstal in Mariupol"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFtFVeA0swI

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Post by Cult Icon » 01 Apr 2022, 16:57

Chechens being transported to the Ukraine (with the obligatory epic music from Braveheart lol):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKjqGou3jDk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCRmMXSB974

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPCgZFyBpPI

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Post by wm » 01 Apr 2022, 22:29

Yuri wrote:
01 Apr 2022, 15:39
However, many of them are given tattoos of the Azov corps and other Nazi symbols.

There are some rough men among the Azov volunteers, but they fight and die for their and our freedom.
Don't forget it, ever.
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Post by Reigo2 » 03 Apr 2022, 07:27

Chechens are the perfect cannon fodder for Russians:
-They are warlike and probably bring added value to the battlefield
-Even if they will be killed in large numbers the public opinion in Russia in general is not affected (many are secretly even pleased)

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Post by Cult Icon » 03 Apr 2022, 14:35

The chechens that appear on Kadyrov's social media appear to be his personal guard or something (?). It's the same group of guys. Some of the footage is clearly staged.

There is also one of Kadyrov's leaders, (rich, tall man with a long white beard) that frequently makes an appearance in the propaganda. He is often depicted shooting weapons (in a obviously staged manner) and chatting with other leaders. This gives an impression that the Chechen National Guard value a man who is a fighter that "leads from the front".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Delimkhanov

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrey_Mordvichev

Commander of 8GCAA has also been featured recently. He was falsely claimed by the Ukr to be KIA.

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/03/20/7332929/

There are other videos circulating online of dead and wounded Kadyrov men, they are certainly taking losses.

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Post by Yuri » 03 Apr 2022, 17:09

Reigo2 wrote:
03 Apr 2022, 07:27
Chechens are the perfect cannon fodder for Russians:
-They are warlike and probably bring added value to the battlefield
-Even if they will be killed in large numbers the public opinion in Russia in general is not affected (many are secretly even pleased)
You, as I see it, are a major expert in the study of Russian public opinion.
It is all the more surprising that you allow yourself to write such an abomination about the Chechen nation.
As a major expert in the study of Russian public opinion, you should know very well that if Chechens read the abomination that you wrote here, they will definitely catch you wherever you are and make you crow like a cock under the video.
And you, as a major expert in the study of Russian public opinion, should be well aware that if a man crowed like a rooster, then such a man will be called a "Rooster" and no one will give him a hand in any circumstances, and, moreover, no one will take any object from the hands of a "Rooster".
If you are called a "Rooster" it is a sentence for the rest of your life.
You are a major specialist in the study of public opinion in Russia, but for some reason you behave so carelessly.
It will be very unpleasant for me to see you crowing.

As I understand it, you know Russian. My advice to you is to filter the bazaar (Фильтруй базар).

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Post by Reigo2 » 03 Apr 2022, 17:51

Yuri wrote:
03 Apr 2022, 17:09
Reigo2 wrote:
03 Apr 2022, 07:27
Chechens are the perfect cannon fodder for Russians:
-They are warlike and probably bring added value to the battlefield
-Even if they will be killed in large numbers the public opinion in Russia in general is not affected (many are secretly even pleased)
You, as I see it, are a major expert in the study of Russian public opinion.
It is all the more surprising that you allow yourself to write such an abomination about the Chechen nation.
As a major expert in the study of Russian public opinion, you should know very well that if Chechens read the abomination that you wrote here, they will definitely catch you wherever you are and make you crow like a cock under the video.
And you, as a major expert in the study of Russian public opinion, should be well aware that if a man crowed like a rooster, then such a man will be called a "Rooster" and no one will give him a hand in any circumstances, and, moreover, no one will take any object from the hands of a "Rooster".
If you are called a "Rooster" it is a sentence for the rest of your life.
You are a major specialist in the study of public opinion in Russia, but for some reason you behave so carelessly.
It will be very unpleasant for me to see you crowing.

As I understand it, you know Russian. My advice to you is to filter the bazaar (Фильтруй базар).
Thank you very much Yuri for your kind warning! I'm not sure what it means to "crow like a cock under the video" but from the extensive stressing of the word "Rooster" I suspect that is related to male to male rape ("Rooster" is a Russian prison slang term for a passive homosexual). I'm aware that Russian authorities (FSIN, FSB) have widespreadly used (and surely will continue to use) prison rape as a measure (one can only Google gulagunet to get more information). I can imagine that Chechens may use the same tactics. Anyway thanks again for the warning, Yuri!

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Post by Yuri » 03 Apr 2022, 17:57

Reigo2 wrote:
03 Apr 2022, 17:51
Yuri wrote:
03 Apr 2022, 17:09
Reigo2 wrote:
03 Apr 2022, 07:27
Chechens are the perfect cannon fodder for Russians:
-They are warlike and probably bring added value to the battlefield
-Even if they will be killed in large numbers the public opinion in Russia in general is not affected (many are secretly even pleased)
You, as I see it, are a major expert in the study of Russian public opinion.
It is all the more surprising that you allow yourself to write such an abomination about the Chechen nation.
As a major expert in the study of Russian public opinion, you should know very well that if Chechens read the abomination that you wrote here, they will definitely catch you wherever you are and make you crow like a cock under the video.
And you, as a major expert in the study of Russian public opinion, should be well aware that if a man crowed like a rooster, then such a man will be called a "Rooster" and no one will give him a hand in any circumstances, and, moreover, no one will take any object from the hands of a "Rooster".
If you are called a "Rooster" it is a sentence for the rest of your life.
You are a major specialist in the study of public opinion in Russia, but for some reason you behave so carelessly.
It will be very unpleasant for me to see you crowing.

As I understand it, you know Russian. My advice to you is to filter the bazaar (Фильтруй базар).
Thank you very much Yuri for your kind warning! I'm not sure what it means to "crow like a cock under the video" but from the extensive stressing of the word "Rooster" I suspect that is related to male to male rape ("Rooster" is a Russian prison slang term for a passive homosexual). I'm aware that Russian authorities (FSIN, FSB) have widespreadly used (and surely will continue to use) prison rape as a measure (one can only Google gulagunet to get more information). I can imagine that Chechens may use the same tactics. Anyway thanks again for the warning, Yuri!
No problem, Dear Reigo2.
Always happy to help a good person.

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