George L Gregory wrote: ↑19 Mar 2022, 20:04
antwony wrote: ↑28 Oct 2021, 17:23
I remember reading about how Finnish anthropologists tried to argue that Finns, Estonians and Hungarians were Europeans and not Mongolians.
This was were this, somewhat interesting, topic went off that rails. Stahel write goods histories, but he knows nothing of Finland. Johansen's a troll who got a book published.
Would be interested to see if you can dig up that quote "Mr. Gregory". Any anthropologists who claims Finns, Estonians and Hungarians aren't European but Mongolian is going to get their degree rescinded. Absolute bonkers
He’s a troll because he has published things that you don’t like, yes? You and Topspeed are two peas in a pod.
All Europeans are descended from Asians. Didn’t you know that? Perhaps you should study the history of Europe and historical migrations.
And no, the anthropologists argued that the Europeans who spoke languages that were not Indo-European languages were still Aryans.
Why aren’t I allowed to disagree with a book?
Sure, and all human’s are descended from Africans.
Would be very surprised if any current anthropologist is still using the term Aryan. But as far as I’m concerned, pretty much everything you write is absolute nonsense, so can’t be bothered debating you.
George L Gregory wrote: ↑07 Apr 2022, 23:44
That’s not proof of what you are claiming. Other people have also noted you dismissing what historians, linguists, etc, agree on about the Finns being Uralic. Finns, Hungarians and Estonians are Uralics and I don’t know why you keep denying that fact.
Can you provide a quote, made with in the last (say) 50 years from any; linguist, historian or anthropologist claiming Finns are Uralic.
Apart from, for some reason, Topspeed no one interested in the subject, let alone academics have claimed that Finnish language, Eesti, etc. aren’t part of Finno- Ugric family of languages. Saying the people of; Finland, Hungary, etc are Uralic is a different thing. It’s up there with Finns are Mongolian, in terms of, problematism/ stupidity.
Have no knowledge, nor interest, in your DNA/ Eugenics stuff. But your claims that your ideas have any academic credibility are very suspect. Note you still haven’t found any references to support your previous claims that Finnish anthropologists studied whether Finns are Mongolian. Although, to be fair, that sounds like the kind of nonsense research that may have happened in the 1800’s.
However, I have studied Linguistic’s a bit. Linking Fenno- Ugric languages with the Ural mountains is old school which moderns scholars aren’t really concerned with. If you want to go with that, fine.
From what I understand, the link to the Urals was based on a certain type of bee not existing east of Urals. Finnish has a word (mesi) for the pollen which bees require, while the equivalent term in Hungarian is loan- word.
Thusly, some genius(/complete moron) decided that Hungarian must come from east of the Urals while Finnish comes the west of them. I’m guessing this worthwhile engagement of human intelligence happened in the early 1900’s.
50 (a 100???) years before that some total moron noticed that the Finnish word for grasshopper (sirkka) was akris in Greek. Therefore, quite obviously, Finns are a lost tribe of Israel, who picked up the Greek language while they migrated to Finland from Palestine.
Linking languages to locations has, largely, been something for cranks and moronic lunatics to study.
Enjoy your thread, Mr Anime, I can’t be bothered engaging with you anymore.