Should we stop calling Pol Pot's brutal oppression of the Cambodian people genocide?

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Should we stop calling Pol Pot's brutal oppression of the Cambodian people genocide?

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Post by Cantankerous » 09 Jul 2022, 18:14

Nobody can deny that Pol Pot took 20th century savagery to new depths by putting to death almost 2 million of his own people through forced labor, famine, and executions, but because he was focused solely on taking Cambodia back to the time of the Khmer Empire by abolishing modern ideas, which he deemed evil, and getting rid of medical and educational institutions in the country, it seems somewhat awkward to call the Khmer Rouge's brutal repression of the Cambodian people genocide because, as noted by Kiernan (2002) and Vickery (1984), ethnic minorities targeted for persecution in Cambodia during Pol Pot's reign, namely the Cham and Cambodians of Thai and Vietnamese descent, constituted a tiny minority of Cambodia's population prior to the Khmer Rouge takeover of Phnom Penh.

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* Kiernan, B., 2002. The Pol Pot Regime: Race, Power and Genocide in Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge, 1975–79, 2nd edition New Haven and London: Yale University Press. pp. 254–255.
* Vickery, M., 1984. Cambodia: 1975–1982. Boston: South End Press.
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Re: Should we stop calling Pol Pot's brutal oppression of the Cambodian people genocide?

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Post by David Thompson » 10 Jul 2022, 01:59

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Re: Should we stop calling Pol Pot's brutal oppression of the Cambodian people genocide?

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Post by Cantankerous » 10 Jul 2022, 04:53

David Thompson wrote:
10 Jul 2022, 01:59
Cantankerous --Please give sources for your claims. From the H&WC section rules:
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Hi David,

I just edited my post to cite references relevant to the question of whether it is inappropriate to classify the deaths of 1.7 million Cambodians under Pol Pot as genocide.

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