Kdre / personnel der Kriegs- und Waffenschulen der Wehrmacht

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Re: Kdre / personnel der Kriegs- und Waffenschulen der Wehrmacht

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Post by Rossano » 13 Sep 2021, 14:22

Of the 3 I have 1 certain only
Hptm. Klein, Anf. 45 zun. Lehroffz., sp. z. Einarb. als NSFO kdrt. (Inf.Schule Döberitz)

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Re: Kdre / personnel der Kriegs- und Waffenschulen der Wehrmacht

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Post by Halfdan S. » 14 Sep 2021, 23:14

Thanks, Rossano, do you have a first name?

Regards
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Re: Kdre / personnel der Kriegs- und Waffenschulen der Wehrmacht

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Post by Halfdan S. » 25 Mar 2022, 22:42

Halfdan S. wrote:
12 Sep 2021, 21:50
I have found a reference to three officers that in early 1945 were described as:

Hptm. Dill, Fahnenjunkerschule 2 der Panzertruppen;
Hptm. Giffel, Kdr. Fahnenjunkerschule der Panzertruppen;
Hptm. Klein, Infanterieschule Döberitz;

I've found a Stefan Giffel, but not enough to decide if he is the right person ... can anyone help?
Still be grateful for any help

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Re: Kdre / personnel der Kriegs- und Waffenschulen der Wehrmacht

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Post by Rossano » 10 Jun 2022, 16:50

Sturm-Btl. AOK 1 :
Wöllm was Hptm. (still in DAL 5.44........)
Probably he became Maj. later, any doc. evidence for that+when ?

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Re: Kdre / personnel der Kriegs- und Waffenschulen der Wehrmacht

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Post by Rossano » 01 Jul 2022, 16:37

Hello
1) The Schule in WK. XIII was in Bamberg, but in a doc. dated oct. 44 it seems that such Schule (in WK. XIII) was in Klattau.
Was this Schule moved from Bamberg to Klattau or Klattau is a mistake ? Whether Klattau OK or not, who was Kdr. in oct. 44 ?
2) Was the Schule in Oschatz first in WK. IV then in WK. IX (or inverse), or always in WK. IX ?
3) Was the Schule in Großenhain first in WK. IX then in WK. IV (or inverse), or always in WK. IV ?
Thanks
P.S.: a correction : In this Forum (and in other sources) I saw the Schule in Militzsch (in WK. VIII). Correct name is Militsch.

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Re: Kdre / personnel der Kriegs- und Waffenschulen der Wehrmacht

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Post by hero. » 27 Jul 2022, 20:04

Hello !

I would like to answer here the questions of Rossano, related to the
locations of the WK Reit- und Fahrschulen and to which WK they belong.

A good overview on the situation end of 1938 is listed in the book by Richter,
Die Geschichte der Deutschen Kavallerie 1919 - 1945, p. 312 (see below).
I marked the "disputed schools" in red and added Warendorf, which was obviously
formed only in 1939, for (to me) unkown reasons.
So by 1939, each WK has its own Remonte-school, except WK XVIII.

We came across this topic in the Seherr-Thoss thread and I made some mistakes
there (probably misreading my notes). I apologize for the unnecessary confusion :oops: !
viewtopic.php?p=2417142#p2417142

The situation is in fact very simple :
The Wehrkreis Reit- und Fahrschule of WK IV was always in Großenhain.
The Wehrkreis Reit- und Fahrschule of WK IX was always in Oschatz.
(Oschatz is located in WK IV, but the school was subordinated to WK IX.)

As far as I can tell, this situation remains the same at least until August 1944.
After that, I have no data.

To clarify everything, I will add a Chart from Nov. 1942:
Both school's are listed under WK IV, but clearly the school in Oschatz is belonging to WK IX.
I hope that settles this topic :D !

Regarding the question whether the school XIII moved from Bamberg to Klattau:
I do not know, It would certainly help to see the document, what exactly it refers to.
In Klattau was Fahr-Ersatz- und Ausbildungs-Abteilung 13 (training drivers for horse drawn carts).

Best regards,
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Re: Kdre / personnel der Kriegs- und Waffenschulen der Wehrmacht

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Post by hero. » 27 Jul 2022, 20:16

Hello !

Regarding Hptm. Wöllm :
You are correct, he was promoted to Major.

I found two different index cards on him, with quite different dates.
(Sources are in the file-names)
I would leave that to the experts here, which card is the more correct one.

He was first Führer (13.12.44) and then Kdr. (20.1.45) of Sturm-Bataillon AOK 1.

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Re: Kdre / personnel der Kriegs- und Waffenschulen der Wehrmacht

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Post by Rossano » 27 Jul 2022, 21:50

Many thanks Hero,
much appreciated
Rgds., Rossano

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Re: Kdre / personnel der Kriegs- und Waffenschulen der Wehrmacht

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Post by Rossano » 11 Aug 2022, 22:36

Hello
Here I found the following data :

"Wallmeisterschule Sternberg/Neumark
Kdr.: 20.03.1945 - ?? Oberst Bässe"

Who is this Ob. Bässe ? Rank + name correct ? Because I have no such Ob. in my data bank
Thanks

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