1) Hitler's exposition of the Spanish demands is, while somewhat simplified, correct overall. As for his feelings toward Spain, he should know. So no, Hitler's comment was not wrong. The problem (for your) is that Hitler's comments has zero value with regards to the statements you made and failed to back up with evidence.ljadw wrote:The following is from the Avalon Project
The Spanish Government and the Axis
Notes covering the interview between the Führer and Count Ciano in the Presence of the Reichs Foreign Minister and the Secretary of State Meissner in Berlin on September 28 1940
Hitler said the following
''Spanish Proposals were
1 Germany is to deliver for the coming year 400000-700000 tons of grains .
2 Germany is to deliver all the fuel
3 Germany is to deliver the lacking equipment for the army
4 Germany is to put up artillery and tanks, as well as special weapons and special troops for the conquest of Gibraltar
5 Germany is to give over all of Morocco and besides that,Oran,and is to help her get a border revision in the west of Rio de Oro
6 Spain is to propose to Germany, in return,her friendship .''
Hitler said also
'''...as a German one feels toward the Spanish almost like a Jew . ...''
The comments of Ciano were going in the same direction .
1 Was Hitler's comment wrong ?
2 Were the Spanish proposals realistic ?
2) The Spanish proposals were very realistic... for Spain. You seem to think otherwise, which is not bad by itself, but it is just your opinion and you have repeatedly failed to show any evidence to support it when requested.
Your answer on question 2 is no. You have repeatedly failed to show any evidence that the Spaniards of the time were making unrealistic proposals on purpose.ljadw wrote:The answer on question 2 is NO :
That was not a Spanish problem.ljadw wrote:see point 5 : Hitler said that if he said yes on point 5 , France would resume the war on the side of Britain .
Show any evidence of that. Your opinion is completely worthless.ljadw wrote:3 Why did Spain ask things who were impossible ?
Answer : to have an excuse for not entering the war .
That was not Spain's problem and have nothing to do with whether Spain was making unfulfillable demands as an excuse for not entering the war or not.The Spanish proposals would have as result (if Hitler accepted them ) that and Felix and Barbarossa would be cancelled/delayed .
That was not Spain's problem and have nothing to do with whether Spain was making unfulfillable demands as an excuse for not entering the war or not.ljadw wrote:If Hitler did not accept them ,Felix would be cancelled .
That's the point, and you have repeatedly failed to provide any evidence to back up your opinion on the matter.ljadw wrote:4 Did Spain know that their proposals were impossible for Germany to accept ?
Your uninformed opinion is not a valid answer to that question.ljadw wrote:Answer : yes :
That they knew what the possible French reaction would be if Hitler would give Morocco and Oran to Spain does not means that it was impossible for Hitler to give Morocco and Oran to Spain. In fact, it means that it was very possible, if costly.ljadw wrote: they knew what the French reaction would be if Hitler would give Morocco and Oran to Spain .
That Spain knew what the possible French reaction would be if Hitler would give Morocco and Oran to Spain does not means that Spain thought it was impossible that Hitler would give Morocco and Oran to Spain. In fact, what do you think would have been the French reaction if Spain invaded French Morocco? And anyway, Spain was ready to do it and the operation almost went on, so why would Spain think that Germany would never do it?ljadw wrote:Hitler knew what the French reactions would be ,thus Spain also knew it .