The end of tanks as we know it?
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T-62 turrets at a tank plant. Not sure where this newsreel originates but it may be the plant that was contracted to modernize 800 T-62:
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Yep, that's it.johnwilliamhunter wrote: ↑23 Oct 2022, 05:38
The text says Chitinsky District if that helps, it's in eastern Russia.
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At the training ground of the Coastal Troops of the Pacific Fleet, mobilized servicemen of Primorye training on T-80BV tanks and BMP-3 infantry fighting vehicles.
https://vk.com/milinfolive?z=video-1247 ... 51034_4954
Training of mobilized servicemen at the Krasny Yar training ground in the Trans-Baikal Territory.
https://vk.com/milinfolive?w=wall-123538639_3145080
These reservists are training with T-62 (including dug in T-62), mortars, CQC, and some sort of towed 100mm AT gun (?) or D-30 (122mm?)
https://vk.com/milinfolive?z=video-1247 ... 51034_4954
Training of mobilized servicemen at the Krasny Yar training ground in the Trans-Baikal Territory.
https://vk.com/milinfolive?w=wall-123538639_3145080
These reservists are training with T-62 (including dug in T-62), mortars, CQC, and some sort of towed 100mm AT gun (?) or D-30 (122mm?)
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From the same photo set (as the previous page with the T-62). Reservists training on T-72 at the same training center.
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That's easy.
The ones who call Ukrainians Orcs are Orcs or Pro-Orcs (Porks?).
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There are new rail footage of factory-fresh T-90Ms online now.
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Dmitry Medvedev visited Uralvagonzavod, accompanied by Alexander Potapov, General Director of the UVZ Concern.
The head of the UVZ Concern reported to the Deputy Chairman of the Security Council of the Russian Federation on the progress of the state defense order for the production of T-90M "Breakthrough", T-72B3M and other special equipment.
Besides the T-62 modernization program there were also contracts for T-90M and T-72B3M.
T-90M on rails, looks factory-fresh:
The head of the UVZ Concern reported to the Deputy Chairman of the Security Council of the Russian Federation on the progress of the state defense order for the production of T-90M "Breakthrough", T-72B3M and other special equipment.
Besides the T-62 modernization program there were also contracts for T-90M and T-72B3M.
T-90M on rails, looks factory-fresh:
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-72_oper ... d_variants
T-72 B3M
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-90
T-72 B3M
T-90MT-72B3 (Ob'yekt 184-M3): this upgrade was initiated in 2010 using old stocks of T-72B tanks held in reserve. In addition to performing a general overhaul of every vehicle, certain tanks were equipped with the more powerful V-92S2 engines, a new steering system in the driver's compartment and older tracks were replaced with the new universal, twin-pin design. The upgrade program focuses instead on improving the tank's firepower, mainly through the implementation of the Kalina fire control system, albeit in a simplified form. The tank commander retains an upgraded version of the legacy TKN-3MK sight, which is a passive device with a range of only 600 m at night, but is augmented with a monitor that displays thermal imagery from the gunner's main sight. The commander also has a new turret control panel. The gunner still has the 1A40-4 FCS with 1K13-49 sight, but these are now part of the auxiliary sighting system to complement the new PNM Sosna-U panoramic multi-spectral sensor, which replaced the TPN-3-49 in its mounting. The Sosna-U is a multi-channel, panoramic sight stabilized in both vertical and horizontal axes with a built-in laser rangefinder and command guidance module used with 9M119M missiles. The most advantageous aspect of the Sosna-U is the Thales Catherine-FC thermal imager which extends the detection and identification range of a tank-sized target to 10,500 m and 3,300 m respectively, at night/day and in all weather combat conditions. The T-72B3 series vehicles also received the new 2A46M5 main gun which has a dispersion value significantly lower than previous generations, and reportedly equivalent to the Rheinmetall Rh120 L/44 cannon. The gun laying and stabilization drives were also replaced with the new 2E42-4 system and the AZ ammunition auto-loader was appropriately modified to accommodate newer generations of long-rod (up to 730 mm) saboted kinetic energy anti-tank ammunition: the Svinets-1 (using a depleted uranium penetrator) and Svinets-2 (sintered tungsten alloy) rounds, which were fielded in 2002 and reportedly capable of defeating 740–800 mm and 660–740 mm of RHA at 2,000 m respectively. Only the most recent T-72B3 tanks however feature this capability. Furthermore, the B3 upgrade includes a new explosion and fire suppression system, as well as an advanced VHF radio system designated R-168-25U-2 AKVEDUK. Entered service on 19 October 2012. First delivered to the 20th Field Army in summer 2013 and its Armored Guards Brigade in October 2013. About 2,000 such tanks are currently in service.[49][97][98][99][100][101][102] Gun 2A46M-5 (2005) for the T-72B3 (2012). Artillery range 9.6 km (normal max), 7.5 km its own sight, the missile 5 km, APFSDS 4 km. Accuracy of + 20%.[103] Unmanned version of T-72B3 is (as of December 2018) under development.[104]
T-72B3M: special version of the T-72B3, first seen during the 2014 edition of the Tank Biathlon. It has a new panoramic sight for the commander on top of the turret, and a V-92S2F 1,130 hp engine.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-90
T-90M – Latest version of the T-90A.[116] The main features include the modernisation of the old turret design, which is equipped with the new advanced fire control system "Kalina" (with integrated combat information and control systems), improved armor on the ammunition carousel, a new upgraded gun 2A46M-5, and a remote-controlled anti-aircraft gun "UDP T05BV-1". The new version also includes the Relikt ERA bricks instead of the Kontakt-5 ERA bricks.[117] Other improvements include a new 1130 hp V-92S2F[118] engine, an enhanced environmental control system, and satellite navigation systems.
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T-14 in a training ground:
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Good photos, thanks for sharing.
It's curious how all these 'military experts' keep insisting that Russia have no weapons left and have no ability to produce any more.
It's curious how all these 'military experts' keep insisting that Russia have no weapons left and have no ability to produce any more.
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Perhaps becausejohnwilliamhunter wrote: ↑25 Oct 2022, 09:01Good photos, thanks for sharing.
It's curious how all these 'military experts' keep insisting that Russia have no weapons left and have no ability to produce any more.
does not show new production of tanks but rather the conversion of old tanks already produced under conversion to new standards? There is little evidence that the only new production tank, the T-14 "Armata", is either in production or service and contracts for only 132 "Armata" platforms (T-14 Tank, T-15 IFV, and T-16 ARV) have been made. It is unlikely that Russia has the production technology for many of the electronic components of the "Armata" platform, especially sensors and targeting computers.
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American Thunder: U.S. Army Tank Design, Development, and Doctrine in World War II
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Hitler's Last Gamble
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American Thunder: U.S. Army Tank Design, Development, and Doctrine in World War II
Cracking Hitler's Atlantic Wall
Hitler's Last Gamble
Artillery Hell
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With tanks, according to IISS data they had some 10,000 (T-72/T-80/T-90) in storage. The work they now have to do is to refurbish and restore them to combat ready status.johnwilliamhunter wrote: ↑25 Oct 2022, 09:01Good photos, thanks for sharing.
It's curious how all these 'military experts' keep insisting that Russia have no weapons left and have no ability to produce any more.
The T-62 and T-64 equipped by Separatist and Volunteer units was not in the data, presumably they have at least over 1000 T-62.
I also know that prior to the war, the Russia could produce a few hundred tanks a year.
TBH I do not trust any of these self proclaimed experts right now. I trust the pre-war literature much more.