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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

Post by Cult Icon » 08 Nov 2022 04:03

"Putin has also noted that up to 80,000 mobilized personnel have entered the combat zone as of November 7, with 50,000 operating within combat units.[92]"

Donbass continues to flare up and has been the focal point for the past 5 days or so.

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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

Post by johnwilliamhunter » 08 Nov 2022 05:44

peeved wrote:
07 Nov 2022 16:26
johnwilliamhunter wrote:
07 Nov 2022 05:55
Over the last 8 months the Russian army took about 100,000km2+
An honest person would have mentioned that at the start of the Orcs' special needs massacre operation 16,799 sqkm were already in the hands of Derp and Larper Proxy Rats.

An honest person would also have mentioned that the Ruffian criminals attacked an unmobilised country at the time of the Orcs' own choosing which quite naturally contributed to them being able to initially nazify and militarise large parts of the Ukraine for their looting, raping, torturing and murdering pleasure.

An honest person would also have mentioned the evil Ivan imperialists' threatening the Ukrainian capital which of course initially contributed to the good people's mainly delaying actions in the East.
johnwilliamhunter wrote:
07 Nov 2022 05:55
and still hold about 90,000km2 of that
An honest person might have quoted the ca. 82,000 sqkm figure from the Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy last Thursday.
johnwilliamhunter wrote:
07 Nov 2022 05:55
the Ukrainian army retook about 10,000km2+ in the same time
An honest person would not have forgotten the minor matter of evil Orcs running for Mama Mordor and Putin's Bitch Puke-a-shenka in late-March...early-April
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or other pre- Kharkiv Operation Orc setbacks or try to belittle Ukrainian accomplishments and exaggerate Orc gains.
johnwilliamhunter wrote:
07 Nov 2022 05:55
forgive my very rough numbers
I doubt that anyone expects anything but pro-Orc bias from the likes of you.
johnwilliamhunter wrote:
07 Nov 2022 05:55
that doesn't suggest to me poorer performance of the Russian army than the Ukrainian.
I doubt that anyone expects anything but pro-Orc bias from the likes of you.

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"16,799 sqkm were already in the hands of Derp and Larper Proxy Rats." So you are aware this conflict didn't start this year. You must mean Donetsk and Luhansk, so that territory was in the hands of the people who live there.

Using your numbers doesn't change the point.

A sensible person probably wouldn't keep confusing this conflict with the fantasy novel Lord of the Rings.

Nazify? you must mean like this guy?
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I'm sure he's just a fan of pirates or has some Prussian military tradition.
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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

Post by Cult Icon » 08 Nov 2022 06:48

I have noticed that in the our mainstream media the operational history of the war is totally misrepresented. They make it look like the Ukrainians gradually 'pushed back' the Russian forces with successful offensive operations in depth. In reality this is deluded fiction that is easily disproven.

The Ukrainian strategy in Feb-August was fundamentally of static defense with immediate counterattacks to restore the line. Their move towards the strategic offensive in Sept-October was unprecedented and marked a departure from the 'death by 1000 cuts' strategy.

It is very obvious from a day to day basis that the two major Russian 'retreats' are actually planned withdrawals. The only 'rout' and real Ukrainian breakthrough was at Kharkiv recently. But soon after they performed a planned withdrawal and the entire Kharkiv' front vanished.

Before they withdrew from the Northern theater in the spring (Kyiv/Sumy/etc.) they booby-trapped and sabotaged the front, and then withdrew in phases with rear-guards.

At Kherson the Russians are once again, preparing for another planned withdrawal just in case their defense west of the Dnipro goes pear-shaped. The Russian command knows when to quit it seems.

However, I expect this to end once the Russian surge progresses and they achieve infantry parity with the Ukrainians. I also expect their tactics to change.
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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

Post by Michael Kenny » 08 Nov 2022 06:49

johnwilliamhunter wrote:
08 Nov 2022 05:44


Nazify? you must mean like this guy?

I'm sure he's just a fan of pirates or has some Prussian military tradition.
'Combat 18 is a UK Nazi Group. The '18' refers to letters of the alphabet 1= 'A' (dolf) & 8 = 'H'(itler)

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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

Post by peeved » 08 Nov 2022 08:17

Michael Kenny wrote:
08 Nov 2022 06:49
johnwilliamhunter wrote:
08 Nov 2022 05:44
Nazify? you must mean like this guy?

I'm sure he's just a fan of pirates or has some Prussian military tradition.
'Combat 18 is a UK Nazi Group. The '18' refers to letters of the alphabet 1= 'A' (dolf) & 8 = 'H'(itler)
UK connection somewhat irrelevant:
Format18 (Russian: Формат18; F18) was a Russian neo-Nazi group based in the city of Moscow. It was led by Maxim Sergeyevich Martsinkevich (also known as Tesak), and had close relations with the political party National Socialist Society.
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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

Post by johnwilliamhunter » 08 Nov 2022 08:18

Cult Icon wrote:
07 Nov 2022 15:33
johnwilliamhunter wrote:
07 Nov 2022 05:55

If the loss of territory and equipment was such a big factor to moral, one could assume the same of the Ukrainian army, but likewise the majority of what I see in videos and written by Ukrainian soldiers shows they still have high spirits.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpC1kXhW2Lw&t=7s

12:08

A lot of Ukrainian units complained of poor training, equipment, and suicidal orders during the campaign for Luhansk Oblast.

Not surprisingly there have been some from the Russian side protesting the mobilization or complaining about living conditions/equipment, which the western media eagerly reports.
I didn't assume these to be more than isolated cases or even propaganda, although some seem legitimate, there have been some cases of fakes, I have been cautious to believe it, if the Austrian army use those videos of Ukrainians as evidence I'll believe they're real.

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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

Post by johnwilliamhunter » 08 Nov 2022 08:21

peeved wrote:
08 Nov 2022 08:17
Michael Kenny wrote:
08 Nov 2022 06:49
johnwilliamhunter wrote:
08 Nov 2022 05:44
Nazify? you must mean like this guy?

I'm sure he's just a fan of pirates or has some Prussian military tradition.
'Combat 18 is a UK Nazi Group. The '18' refers to letters of the alphabet 1= 'A' (dolf) & 8 = 'H'(itler)
UK connection somewhat irrelevant:
Format18 (Russian: Формат18; F18) was a Russian neo-Nazi group based in the city of Moscow. It was led by Maxim Sergeyevich Martsinkevich (also known as Tesak), and had close relations with the political party National Socialist Society.
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Photo is a Ukrainian soldier, one of many who wear the Totenkopf patch. Format 18 is illegal in Russia, in Ukraine it is militarized and accepted in their armed forces.

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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

Post by mezsat2 » 08 Nov 2022 08:29

johnwilliamhunter wrote:
08 Nov 2022 08:21
peeved wrote:
08 Nov 2022 08:17
Michael Kenny wrote:
08 Nov 2022 06:49
johnwilliamhunter wrote:
08 Nov 2022 05:44
Nazify? you must mean like this guy?

I'm sure he's just a fan of pirates or has some Prussian military tradition.
'Combat 18 is a UK Nazi Group. The '18' refers to letters of the alphabet 1= 'A' (dolf) & 8 = 'H'(itler)
UK connection somewhat irrelevant:
Format18 (Russian: Формат18; F18) was a Russian neo-Nazi group based in the city of Moscow. It was led by Maxim Sergeyevich Martsinkevich (also known as Tesak), and had close relations with the political party National Socialist Society.
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Photo is a Ukrainian soldier, one of many who wear the Totenkopf patch. Format 18 is illegal in Russia, in Ukraine it is militarized and accepted in their armed forces.
M*&#^#F "Totenkopf". This is not relevant in any way to what's going on
right now in Ukraine. Russians are killing and raping civilians and Ukraine
definitely isn't. This is 100% factual.

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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

Post by peeved » 08 Nov 2022 08:52

Cult Icon wrote:
08 Nov 2022 06:48
I have noticed that in the our mainstream media the operational history of the war is totally misrepresented.
How long does it take for you to admit that it is you and other pro-Orc trolls that totally misrepresent the war?
Cult Icon wrote:
08 Nov 2022 06:48
They make it look like the Ukrainians gradually 'pushed back' the Russian forces with successful offensive operations in depth.
I have noticed no such trend. The way I've seen it described is that in most pre-September liberations, the Ruffian positions were made untenable due to a major part their logistics shamble which expedited the denazification and decriminalisation of orcified territories.
Cult Icon wrote:
08 Nov 2022 06:48
In reality this is deluded fiction that is easily disproven.
Why don't you first show a representative cross-section of mainstream media where pre-September it is made to
look like the Ukrainians gradually 'pushed back' the Russian forces with successful offensive operations in depth.
re: the majority of liberated territories.
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Cult Icon wrote:
08 Nov 2022 06:48
The Ukrainian strategy in Feb-August was fundamentally of static defense with immediate counterattacks to restore the line. Their move towards the strategic offensive in Sept-October was unprecedented and marked a departure from the 'death by 1000 cuts' strategy.
Isn't 1000 a rather grand number from someone like you who has proven himself incapable of handling calculations involving double-digit numbers somewhat over 50 :lol: :lol:
Cult Icon wrote:
08 Nov 2022 06:48
It is very obvious from a day to day basis that the two major Russian 'retreats' are actually planned withdrawals.
Cult Icon wrote:
08 Nov 2022 06:48
The only 'rout' and real Ukrainian breakthrough was at Kharkiv recently. But soon after they performed a planned withdrawal and the entire Kharkiv' front vanished.
So they planned to leave massive amounts of equipment behind along their runaway route even bringing the much-vaunted 3rd Army Corps in to abandon its vehicles etc. Sounds like Putinesque planned economy.
Cult Icon wrote:
08 Nov 2022 06:48
At Kherson the Russians are once again, preparing for another planned withdrawal just in case their defense west of the Dnipro goes pear-shaped. The Russian command knows when to quit it seems.
If they did they would have offed Russkiymir Putler a long time ago.
Cult Icon wrote:
08 Nov 2022 06:48
However, I expect this to end once the Russian surge progresses and they achieve infantry parity with the Ukrainians. I also expect their tactics to change.
You mean from this:
The commanders said that you are meat, they brought you here for this, they will kill you all anyway. They gave them one sapper shovel for 30 people and told them to dig trenches for themselves
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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

Post by peeved » 08 Nov 2022 09:13

johnwilliamhunter wrote:
08 Nov 2022 08:21
Photo is a Ukrainian soldier, one of many who wear the Totenkopf patch.

He also wears a Boogaloo Boys patch; Does that make him a Trumpist Putler-lover?
johnwilliamhunter wrote:
08 Nov 2022 08:21
Format 18 is illegal in Russia, in Ukraine it is militarized and accepted in their armed forces.
Can your claim be corroborated from any reliable source?
Is there e.g. an Ukrainian unit called "Format 18".

That aside a nation fighting for its survival against Mother Mordor's Murderers shouldn't be too choosy who's fighting the good fight. Like the old crook Deng Xiaoping famously said "It doesn't matter whether a cat is black or white, as long as it catches mice."

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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

Post by peeved » 08 Nov 2022 09:19

johnwilliamhunter wrote:
08 Nov 2022 08:21
Photo is a Ukrainian soldier, one of many who wear the Totenkopf patch.
Can your claims be corroborated from any reliable source?

Orcs seem to like the neo-Nazi version
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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

Post by johnwilliamhunter » 08 Nov 2022 09:48

mezsat2 wrote:
08 Nov 2022 08:29
johnwilliamhunter wrote:
08 Nov 2022 08:21
peeved wrote:
08 Nov 2022 08:17
Michael Kenny wrote:
08 Nov 2022 06:49
johnwilliamhunter wrote:
08 Nov 2022 05:44
Nazify? you must mean like this guy?

I'm sure he's just a fan of pirates or has some Prussian military tradition.
'Combat 18 is a UK Nazi Group. The '18' refers to letters of the alphabet 1= 'A' (dolf) & 8 = 'H'(itler)
UK connection somewhat irrelevant:
Format18 (Russian: Формат18; F18) was a Russian neo-Nazi group based in the city of Moscow. It was led by Maxim Sergeyevich Martsinkevich (also known as Tesak), and had close relations with the political party National Socialist Society.
Markus
Photo is a Ukrainian soldier, one of many who wear the Totenkopf patch. Format 18 is illegal in Russia, in Ukraine it is militarized and accepted in their armed forces.
M*&#^#F "Totenkopf". This is not relevant in any way to what's going on
right now in Ukraine. Russians are killing and raping civilians and Ukraine
definitely isn't. This is 100% factual.
Peeved is the one who opened the discussion to be about Nazis, and Lord of the Rings is relevant?

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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

Post by johnwilliamhunter » 08 Nov 2022 09:49

peeved wrote:
08 Nov 2022 09:19
Can your claims be corroborated from any reliable source?
Is Zelensky reliable enough for you?

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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

Post by peeved » 08 Nov 2022 10:00

johnwilliamhunter wrote:
08 Nov 2022 09:49
peeved wrote:
08 Nov 2022 09:19
Can your claims be corroborated from any reliable source?
Is Zelensky reliable enough for you?
One, possibly two, does not many make.
johnwilliamhunter wrote:
08 Nov 2022 08:21
Photo is a Ukrainian soldier, one of many who wear the Totenkopf patch.
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