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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

Post by Cult Icon » 09 Nov 2022 01:00

https://rusi.org/explore-our-research/p ... t-soldiers

OMON ‘Akhmat-Grozny’
SOBR ‘Akhmat’

249th Separate Special Motorised Battalion (SMB) ‘South’
141st Special Motorised Regiment ‘North’ "
78th Motorised Rifle Regiment

" A Russian SMB typically consists of around 500 personnel, while a regiment consists of approximately 2,000. So, between the 249th, 141st and 78th, Kadyrov could be expected to field 4,500 personnel – not including the other specialized formations."

"from 2013, Chechen forces were trained by Daniil Martynov, a former FSB special forces (SF) officer from the elite unit known as Alpha. Kadyrov is understood to have rejected any federal assistance in training his security forces in favour of Martynov. The BBC reported that Martynov's former colleagues took a dim view of him providing Alpha's secrets to the Chechens"

" Kadyrov’s forces have provided the Russians with a group of willing, motivated and well-trained personnel to conduct difficult operations. With the 141st at their head, the Chechens were organised into assault platoons and took command of the siege of Mariupol. Ukrainian sources have explained that the Chechens were very capable at finding the seams between Ukrainian units, such as where the marines joined up with territorial defence units, and directing their efforts there. These points were typically where coordination between the forces was at its weakest, allowing the Chechens to make progress and ultimately succeed in reducing the Ukrainian defences. This role has continued to some extent, with Chechen units, Wagner Group mercenaries and Russia’s airborne forces providing a second line of troops. One tactic they employ is to send less experienced units forward to reveal Ukrainian positions, which are then engaged with precision artillery and loitering munition strikes. The Chechens and others then follow up the attack against weakened Ukrainian positions."
The Chechen commercial I posted earlier is aimed at recruiting people to these combat units.

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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

Post by Tom Peters » 09 Nov 2022 03:18

johnwilliamhunter wrote:
07 Nov 2022 05:55
Tom Peters wrote:
06 Nov 2022 22:29

How about the evidence of RU units leaving their equipment behind and running away ? The RU have kindly donated so very much equipment to the UKR.

Poor RU morale and cohesion is a given considering the RU performance over the last 8 months.

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That is a consideration that relates to moral, and I think an effect on moral is a given, the fact of the retreat I think is more likely due to force strength than moral, the majority of what I see in videos and written by Russian soldiers doesn't suggest low moral.

If the loss of territory and equipment was such a big factor to moral, one could assume the same of the Ukrainian army, but likewise the majority of what I see in videos and written by Ukrainian soldiers shows they still have high spirits.

Over the last 8 months the Russian army took about 100,000km2+, and still hold about 90,000km2 of that, the Ukrainian army retook about 10,000km2+ in the same time, forgive my very rough numbers, that doesn't suggest to me poorer performance of the Russian army than the Ukrainian.
You need to remember the RU gains were during the 1st month (almost entirely). After that the RU have lost territory.

This is a RU offensive. They started this. With almost nothing to show for the attack in 7 months, other than savage men and equipment losses, any rational actor would of called it off.

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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

Post by Tom Peters » 09 Nov 2022 03:23

Cult Icon wrote:
07 Nov 2022 06:56
Ukrainian army as a whole has been good in the defense, poor in the offense. Russian army as a whole has been good in the defense, sub-par in the offense. Combined arms and coordination on both sides has ranged from poor to sub-par. The Russian army has the excuse of being missing their infantry battalions, the Ukrainians don't have that excuse.

When one looks at a quantitative basis things are very different.
What are you smoking. The UKR are doing great on the defensive, and during the actual offensive in Kharkov, they ate the Russian lunch - and got a ton of free equipment for it.

The RU army has no excuse. Poor training, poor leadership, poor morale, poor doctrine and enough corruption to warm a mafia bosses heart. RU had an overwhelming air advantage and an overwhelming sea advantage and an overwhelming equipment advantage. They picked the time and place of attack. RU had every advantage and squandered it. This is the Winter War, Part 2.

The UKR army has done so much better than the RU. Only a RU shill would claim otherwise.

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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

Post by Tom Peters » 09 Nov 2022 03:26

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07 Nov 2022 06:56

The Russian infantry arm has been interestingly survivable in the attack and strong in the defense. If they weren't Russia would have withdrew from Ukraine in the spring. Russian/Ukrainian artillery has performed well in the defense and has been a force multiplier for the infantry. I don't expect the Russian reservist infantry to be as good as the professional-contract troops.
Stop huffing paint and stop reading the RU MOD announcements. If the RU infantry was survivable, the RU wouldnt be conscripting 300,000+ men and recruiting from prisons.

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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

Post by Tom Peters » 09 Nov 2022 03:27

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07 Nov 2022 13:07
Donbass continues to flare up, likely due to the inflow reservists freeing up the PMC and Separatist units for the assault
Wow, just in time to futilely try to take Bahkmut for the 78th time in 3 months. What a joke. The cream of the RU army cant take a single unimportant village in 3 months.

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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

Post by Tom Peters » 09 Nov 2022 03:32

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08 Nov 2022 06:48
I have noticed that in the our mainstream media the operational history of the war is totally misrepresented. They make it look like the Ukrainians gradually 'pushed back' the Russian forces with successful offensive operations in depth. In reality this is deluded fiction that is easily disproven.
Blah blah blah.

Izyum. Lyman.

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08 Nov 2022 06:48
It is very obvious from a day to day basis that the two major Russian 'retreats' are actually planned withdrawals. The only 'rout' and real Ukrainian breakthrough was at Kharkiv recently. But soon after they performed a planned withdrawal and the entire Kharkiv' front vanished.
Who would be dumb enough to believe that Izyum was a planned retreat ? The sheer amount of captured RU equipment shows there was nothing planned about it. it was a rout.

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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

Post by Tom Peters » 09 Nov 2022 03:35

johnwilliamhunter wrote:
08 Nov 2022 09:48
mezsat2 wrote:
08 Nov 2022 08:29
johnwilliamhunter wrote:
08 Nov 2022 08:21
peeved wrote:
08 Nov 2022 08:17
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08 Nov 2022 06:49


'Combat 18 is a UK Nazi Group. The '18' refers to letters of the alphabet 1= 'A' (dolf) & 8 = 'H'(itler)
UK connection somewhat irrelevant:
Format18 (Russian: Формат18; F18) was a Russian neo-Nazi group based in the city of Moscow. It was led by Maxim Sergeyevich Martsinkevich (also known as Tesak), and had close relations with the political party National Socialist Society.
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Photo is a Ukrainian soldier, one of many who wear the Totenkopf patch. Format 18 is illegal in Russia, in Ukraine it is militarized and accepted in their armed forces.
M*&#^#F "Totenkopf". This is not relevant in any way to what's going on
right now in Ukraine. Russians are killing and raping civilians and Ukraine
definitely isn't. This is 100% factual.
Peeved is the one who opened the discussion to be about Nazis, and Lord of the Rings is relevant?
A lot of these nazi accusations are overblown for both sides. How many young people outside of this forum actually know what the symbols represent ? As opposed to "this patch looks cool".

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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

Post by Tom Peters » 09 Nov 2022 04:11

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08 Nov 2022 14:27
The Russian military's housing in 2017 authorized 889,423 reserve billets. There are approx. 3 million reservists that served within the past 10 years.

So partial mobilization is well within their housing capacity.
Then why are conscripts getting dumped into open fields with no...nothing....no tents no housing, no food....no officers....

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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

Post by peeved » 09 Nov 2022 05:57

Tom Peters wrote:
09 Nov 2022 04:11
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08 Nov 2022 14:27
The Russian military's housing in 2017 authorized 889,423 reserve billets. There are approx. 3 million reservists that served within the past 10 years.

So partial mobilization is well within their housing capacity.
Then why are conscripts getting dumped into open fields with no...nothing....no tents no housing, no food....no officers....
Giving them actual equipment would reduce the profits from their officers' tent, ready meal, pioneer shovel etc. business? And do you know how much genuine Ratnik gear from Russia used to bring at eBay?

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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

Post by peeved » 09 Nov 2022 06:27

If an actual item then somewhere there's a Vatnik with a real flat head:

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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

Post by Martin_from_Valhalla » 09 Nov 2022 16:27

Shoigu announced an hour ago that Russian Army started leaving Kherson. A car of Kherson collaborant Stremousov was bombed several hours ago while he was running away from Kherson. Everybody says on Russian forums that he was killed by FSB, just like Zakharchenko, Mototola or Givi.

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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

Post by Cult Icon » 09 Nov 2022 16:34

The withdrawal from the west bank of Kherson appears to be have begun today.

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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

Post by Martin_from_Valhalla » 09 Nov 2022 17:09

It's getting interesting! Today another Ukrainian collaborant Saldo, gaulaitor of Zaporizhe, released a video with announcement about death of Stremousov. He released the video in 14.01 but the news about death of Strmousov started arriving... in 16.01. Sounds similar to crashed Malasian Boeing when Donbass separatists in 2014 claimed they just crashed down Ukrainian fighter jet but... they had to delete their message because they discovered it was a passenger's plane.

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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

Post by Cult Icon » 09 Nov 2022 18:03

The cost of one HESA Shahed 136 has been claimed to be as low as $20,000-10,000 each. Haven't found claims for Lancet prices- the other wunderwaffen of the month.

The AA missiles that are used to shoot them down cost in the range of hundreds of thousands of dollars each.

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