Tom Peters wrote: ↑09 Nov 2022 02:42
peeved wrote: ↑08 Nov 2022 16:17
For me e.g. Oryx would do nicely. I see no need to doubt UK or US government sources either if you happen to be privy to their combat loss analysis data.
Markus
Oryx is the generally accepted sourced, and a while back lostarmour agreed with oryx. I havnt looked at UAWeaponstracker yet.
Mad Dog
I do check Oryx as a source, and lostarmour, they have a good forum, UAWeaponstracker is one of Oryx' sources.
Oryx is very pro-Ukraine, and you have to exhaustingly check every entry. For a small example, for 7.11 they say 5 T-72B3 destroyed, so you have to look at the 5 entries;
1 is from September and it's a blurry image of 'something' burning, no source, I didn't count it.
2 appears to be a tank on fire, no source, how can they tell it's a russian t-72b3?, even the caption says unknown tank, I didn't count it.
3 is a tank, they claim from 3.11, but it is burnt and has plants growing over it, clearly months old, I didn't count it.
4 is from July, I didn't count it.
5 is from June, I didn't count it.
They listed 23 russian tank losses for this day and presented it as if they were new, I checked all of them and only 2 were recent, 2 of the T-80s I counted.
