Axis Non-Armored Vehicles quiz

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Re: Axis Non-Armored Vehicles quiz

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Post by Maxschnauzer » 22 Nov 2022, 21:41

Hi Rob,
Wow, that was fast! I was expecting to fool someone since it looks so much like the Tatra 72 but you saw right through that. Well done and please carry on.
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Post by Robturner » 23 Nov 2022, 15:50

Thank you, Max.
Here's the next entry in the quiz.
It's a post-war picture, the number plates identifying the location as the Rhineland, British zone of occupation (the letters B and R).
I know the manufacturer of the convertible so that will be adequate.
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I'm sure that someone will confirm what I believe to be the model type.
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Post by Robturner » 24 Nov 2022, 22:24

To help, it's a German manufacturer and quite commonly found.
Rob.

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Post by Maxschnauzer » 25 Nov 2022, 23:49

Hi Rob,
This is a head scratcher. I've just been through Oswald's Deutsche Autos for the second time and the closest I can find with that distinctive door moulding is this BMW 3/20 PS:
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Oswald: Deutsche Autos 1920-1945
I'm not at all happy with this answer but it's the only one I've got!
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Post by SIS 5 » 26 Nov 2022, 11:41

Hi Rob, hi Max,

could it be a Hanomag 4/23 PS type 11 cabriolet?

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Post by Robturner » 26 Nov 2022, 20:42

Hello Bert,
Yes, you're right with your identification of the vehicle as a Hanomag and it has to be a 4-23 PS cabriolet. Enclosed is a picture of a restored example.
Max was very close, the door moulding on the door is very similar to that on the BMW 3/20 and I find that the two types have much in common.
A confession - I thought that I had a photograph of the 4-23 cabrio in military service but I now find that it's of a later model, perhaps a Rekord. I must apologise for that; my entry rather defeated the purpose of the quiz. I must learn to curb my enthusiasm in the future and ensure that I am able to
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provide evidence of the vehicle in use by by the Axis forces.
Over to you, Bert.
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Post by SIS 5 » 27 Nov 2022, 00:43

Hi Rob,

thank You! But there is no need for an apology. Hanomag produced a three-seater Kübelwagen of the model 4/23 PS. Unfortunately I don´t have a pic of this vehicle.
Here is the new question: who can ID this truck?

Best regards and much luck

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Post by Maxschnauzer » 27 Nov 2022, 04:29

Hi Bert,
Is this the drei sitzer?
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Post by SIS 5 » 27 Nov 2022, 09:24

Hi Max,

thank You very much for this pic. This must be the Hanomag type 4/23. For comparing a pic with the type 4/20 (source: "Personenkraftwagen der Wehrmacht" by Reinhard Frank). In the same book is a pic of the type 4/23 with the divided windscreen, but not exactly identified (type 4/20 or rather 4/23). With Your help we can now identify the two models of Hanomag cars.

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Post by Maxschnauzer » 28 Nov 2022, 00:31

SIS 5 wrote:
27 Nov 2022, 00:43
Hi Rob,

Here is the new question: who can ID this truck?

Best regards and much luck

Bert
Hi Bert,
To me it looks like a MAN between 3 and 6 tons. Maybe a Type D1?
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Post by SIS 5 » 28 Nov 2022, 00:49

Hi Max,

You are on the right way, but it´s not the type D 1.

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Post by Maxschnauzer » 28 Nov 2022, 09:31

OK Bert,
How about the M 1 then?
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Post by SIS 5 » 28 Nov 2022, 18:55

Hi Max,

that´s it! Very good! So it´s Your turn again to go on with the quiz.

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Post by Maxschnauzer » 28 Nov 2022, 21:41

Thanks Bert,
I was running out of MAN lorries with 10 bolt wheel rims!
Here's the next question:
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Post by Maxschnauzer » 29 Nov 2022, 05:43

SIS 5 wrote:
27 Nov 2022, 00:43
Hi Rob,

Hanomag produced a three-seater Kübelwagen of the model 4/23 PS. Unfortunately I don´t have a pic of this vehicle.

Bert
Hi Bert and Rob,
Here is a presentation of Hanomag 4/20 and 4/23 Kübels including the three seater 4/23 you mention Bert, from Walter Spielberger's Fahrzeuge der Reichswehr - Radfahrzeuge 1920-1935
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