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Post by Art » 07 Jan 2023, 16:32

Let's continue with online manuals.

Regulation on garrison service of the Red Army, 1941:
https://viewer.rsl.ru/ru/rsl01005251075 ... heme=white

Disciplinary regulation for the Soviet Union's Navy, 1940:
https://viewer.rsl.ru/ru/rsl01005250862 ... heme=white

Provisional instruction on field service of the unit's staffs. 1941:
https://viewer.rsl.ru/ru/rsl01005250860 ... heme=white

Instruction on field service of the Red Army's staffs, 1942:
https://viewer.rsl.ru/ru/rsl01005264039 ... heme=white

Insctruction for the RKKA's artillery. Rules of gunnery for ground artillery, 1939:
https://viewer.rsl.ru/ru/rsl01005202511 ... heme=white

Instruction for motorized and motor transport units of the Red Army. Formations of motorized and motor transport units. 1941:
https://viewer.rsl.ru/ru/rsl01005250913 ... heme=white

Instruction on train service of the Red Army, 1939:
https://viewer.rsl.ru/ru/rsl01005202526 ... heme=white

Insctruction on physical training of the RKKA's ground troops, 1938:
https://viewer.rsl.ru/ru/rsl01005229025 ... heme=white

Instruction on engineer service for the RKKA's infantry, 1939
https://viewer.rsl.ru/ru/rsl01005250923 ... heme=white

Insctruction on battle shooting. Control of small arms fire in battle, 1941, Book 1:
https://viewer.rsl.ru/ru/rsl01005251040 ... heme=white

Instruction on batle shooting 1938, hand grenades:
https://viewer.rsl.ru/ru/rsl01005251018 ... heme=white

Instruction on batle shooting 1938, revolver mod. 1895 and pistol mod. 1930:
https://viewer.rsl.ru/ru/rsl01005250981 ... heme=white

Instruction on batle shooting 1938, rifle mod. 1891/30:
https://viewer.rsl.ru/ru/rsl01011054757 ... heme=white

Insctruction on battle shooting 1940, 82-mm battalion mortar:
https://viewer.rsl.ru/ru/rsl01005250969 ... heme=white

Instruction on permanent communication lines, 1941:
https://viewer.rsl.ru/ru/rsl01005250935 ... heme=white

Instruction for engineer troops. Demolition works. 1940:
https://viewer.rsl.ru/ru/rsl01005228981 ... heme=white

Instruction for all arms of the Red Army. Obstacles. Part 2. Mines (project), 1943:
https://viewer.rsl.ru/ru/rsl01005155146 ... heme=white

Instruction for all arms of the Red Army. Obstacles. Part 3. Obstacles removal and mine clearance (project), 1943:
https://viewer.rsl.ru/ru/rsl01005155145 ... heme=white

Instruction for all arms of the Red Army. Obstacles. Part 8. Means for mine clearance (project), 1943:
https://viewer.rsl.ru/ru/rsl01005155142 ... heme=white

Instruction for all arms of the Red Army. Obstacles. Part 9. Electrical obstacles and their removal (project), 1943:
https://viewer.rsl.ru/ru/rsl01005155143 ... heme=white

Instruction for execution of obstacles on railroads, 1941. Part 1. Evacuation of railroads.
https://viewer.rsl.ru/ru/rsl01005137482 ... heme=white

Instruction for execution of obstacles on railroads, 1941. Part 2. Demolitions on railroads.
https://viewer.rsl.ru/ru/rsl01005137481 ... heme=white

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Re: Soviet Manuals

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Post by Art » 19 Jan 2023, 02:53

Instruction on battle shooting - 38. DP light machine gun.
https://www.prlib.ru/item/428703

Instruction on battle shooting -38. "Maxim" heavy machine gun mod. 1910:
https://www.prlib.ru/item/428705

Instruction on battle shooting - 40. Company mortar mod. 1938, 1940
https://www.prlib.ru/item/428706


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Re: Soviet Manuals

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Post by Vasilyev » 24 Jan 2023, 22:38

The 1944 edition of the 1943 draft field regulations is online (Missing a couple pages) and translated into English:

https://archive.org/details/jprs-report ... 1/mode/2up

Apparently, the two editions are more or less identical. I searched around for a complete Russian original of the 1943 draft but nothing immediately came up.

It's interesting that the regulations insists that combat formations should not engage in combat with their units echeloned:
The alignment of combat formations in troop elements below army (corps) by echelon does not meet the demands of modern warfare, since it leads to unnecessary losses as a result of an oversaturation of the battlefield with personnel to its entire depth, it dooms a significant portion of the troops to inaction in combat, and it deprives troops of an opportunity to bring down the entire force of their subunit and unit weapons on the enemy.

A mandatory requirement for the maximum and simultaneous participation of division infantry and weapons in combat from its beginning to its end has been made the basis for alignment of new combat formations below army (corps). Small reserves are formed to repulse surprise enemy attacks, especially on flanks and boundaries; to support the units which are fighting; and to exploit and consolidate success.
This is contradicted by many operations in 1944, and experience reports continue to praise the use of deeply echeloned formations. So the draft regulations may not have had much practical significance.

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Post by Paul_Atreides » 26 Jan 2023, 07:01

Vasilyev wrote:
24 Jan 2023, 22:38
This is contradicted by many operations in 1944, and experience reports continue to praise the use of deeply echeloned formations. So the draft regulations may not have had much practical significance.

https://paul-atrydes.livejournal.com/59129.html
There is no waste, there are reserves (Slogan of German Army in World Wars)

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Post by Vasilyev » 26 Jan 2023, 21:35

Paul_Atreides wrote:
26 Jan 2023, 07:01
Vasilyev wrote:
24 Jan 2023, 22:38
This is contradicted by many operations in 1944, and experience reports continue to praise the use of deeply echeloned formations. So the draft regulations may not have had much practical significance.

https://paul-atrydes.livejournal.com/59129.html
Thank you for the backstory! Since it wasn't until October 1944 that echelons were formally endorsed again, is there anything before then (NKO orders, etc.) which discusses the issue?

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Post by Paul_Atreides » 27 Jan 2023, 09:15

Vasilyev wrote:
26 Jan 2023, 21:35
Since it wasn't until October 1944 that echelons were formally endorsed again, is there anything before then (NKO orders, etc.) which discusses the issue?
https://paul-atrydes.livejournal.com/30400.html

And here three articles from the «Red star» paper about units' echelonment

https://paul-atrydes.livejournal.com/303249.html
https://paul-atrydes.livejournal.com/303443.html
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Post by Vasilyev » 28 Jan 2023, 18:44

Paul_Atreides wrote:
27 Jan 2023, 09:15
Vasilyev wrote:
26 Jan 2023, 21:35
Since it wasn't until October 1944 that echelons were formally endorsed again, is there anything before then (NKO orders, etc.) which discusses the issue?
https://paul-atrydes.livejournal.com/30400.html

And here three articles from the «Red star» paper about units' echelonment

https://paul-atrydes.livejournal.com/303249.html
https://paul-atrydes.livejournal.com/303443.html
Thank you for sharing! I read Isaev’s article on the order in his recent book (Мозаика Великой Отечественной) and it did a good job summing everything up. I agree with his point that the issue must’ve been discussed at points (Vatutin in December 1942) with Stavka representatives. But ignoring the order without any consultation also seems like it was common, even though it was associated directly with Stalin.

Do you know of other cases where official doctrine was largely ignored in practice, despite attempts to correct the issue? Rules and orders on accounting for property and equipment got ignored by many formations and commands. I’ve got a few orders on the topic from 1944 I’ve been meaning to post. But that’s different from ignoring doctrine altogether.

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Post by Art » 28 Jan 2023, 21:26

According to the battle manual tank units and formations could continously operate not longer than 4-5 days, after which they needed a pause of 2-3 days for maintenance and resupply. In reality in allmost all large operations it was not the case and units could operate without large pauses as long as several weeks. This point was raised in comments on the manual for tank troops IIRC.

Of course, there were many cases when official doctrine was ignored due to incompetence and with adverse effect.

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Post by Art » 25 Feb 2023, 15:57

"Instruction on employment of command groups of the rifle company and platoon", Administration for the Battle Training of the Red Army, 1942:
https://viewer.rsl.ru/ru/rsl01005258758 ... heme=white

"Provisional instruction for organization of communications in the rifle division", Main Administration for Communications of the Red Army, 1942:
https://viewer.rsl.ru/ru/rsl01005257181 ... heme=white

"Instruction on employment of signals of recognition and communication between ground troops and aviation of the Red Army", General Staff of the Red Army, 1942:
https://pamyat-naroda.ru/documents/view/?id=135552358

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Post by AMVAS » 22 Jul 2023, 15:59

Der Alte Fritz wrote:
19 Oct 2021, 07:59
Still looking for a copy of
Онисимов, Василий Николаевич - Работа лошади в частях артиллерии и в общевойсковом обозе (https://search.rsl.ru/ru/record/01005223501)
and any manuals that show the construction or layout of a depot, warehouse or other rear area store.
I have some experience getting copies of manuals from RSL.
Half a year ago I got some manuals from them.

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Post by Der Alte Fritz » 22 Jul 2023, 23:18

Well I am working with some conflict archeologists on Soviet Army rear areas so would be interested in anything on the layout of depots, ammunition, dumps, fuel storage, food storage, vehicle storage, layout of depots etc, airfield and their layout.

And the Онисимов, Василий Николаевич - Работа лошади в частях артиллерии и в общевойсковом обозе

Also there is this dissertation that is only available in printed form.
Alexander Nikolaevich Manzhosov, ‘Специальные Формирования Народного Комиссариата Путей Сообщения (нкпс) В Годы Великой Отечественной Войны (1941 -1945 Г.г.)’ [Special Formations of the People’s Commissariate of Communications (NKPS) During the Great Patriotic War (1941 -1945)] (Курск, 1998), http://cheloveknauka.com/spetsialnye-fo ... 41-1945-g-.
I did ask the Technical University at Kursk but they could not supply it.

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Post by AMVAS » 23 Jul 2023, 00:24

Der Alte Fritz wrote:
22 Jul 2023, 23:18
Well I am working with some conflict archeologists on Soviet Army rear areas so would be interested in anything on the layout of depots, ammunition, dumps, fuel storage, food storage, vehicle storage, layout of depots etc, airfield and their layout.
I can guess it's more archival than literature research works.
Literature analysis IMHO can give quite a rude estimation for depot placement.
And the Онисимов, Василий Николаевич - Работа лошади в частях артиллерии и в общевойсковом обозе
I think it's some sort of brief manuals.
I can see printed version for sale for 6300R (~$75). Of course, e-copy looks to be done for less fees.
I can estimate scanned e-copy to be about 1500-2000R ($18-24)
Also there is this dissertation that is only available in printed form.
Alexander Nikolaevich Manzhosov, ‘Специальные Формирования Народного Комиссариата Путей Сообщения (нкпс) В Годы Великой Отечественной Войны (1941 -1945 Г.г.)’ [Special Formations of the People’s Commissariate of Communications (NKPS) During the Great Patriotic War (1941 -1945)] (Курск, 1998), http://cheloveknauka.com/spetsialnye-fo ... 41-1945-g-.
I did ask the Technical University at Kursk but they could not supply it.
I can order its e-copy from RSL, but it will be more long, because they wouldn't make its copy in one order. One must divide its order into 2 or more pieces to keep copyright laws.
Author's abstract (22 pages) is available for free. Hope you already read it here https://cheloveknauka.com/v/536214/a?#?page=1 as soon as you noticed this site.
Unfortunately I can't see this dissertation in online services, which usually are much cheaper than RSL

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Post by Der Alte Fritz » 11 Aug 2023, 16:30

Hi Amvas
I will take those items if you can get them for me. Will drop you an email.

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Post by AMVAS » 11 Aug 2023, 17:02

Der Alte Fritz wrote:
11 Aug 2023, 16:30
Hi Amvas
I will take those items if you can get them for me. Will drop you an email.
Hi!
Already replied. Check your mailbox. sometimes mail daemons block my mails

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Post by Der Alte Fritz » 11 Aug 2023, 17:36

Got the email, thank you

This is the Ammunition Manual that I got last year:
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