You said that the US helped Europe when Hitler invaded and that is not correct .Tom Peters wrote: ↑28 Jan 2023 00:55How many Americans died to liberate Belgium, for example ?ljadw wrote: ↑27 Jan 2023 10:051 US did not help Europe in 1939 and 1940 : it did not declare war on Germany when the Germans attacked the Netherlands and Belgium . If it was possible, US would have sold war material to Germany after 1939 .
2 LL started only in 1941
3 The reason for LL was not that Hitler was a bad guy but that the end of Cash and Carry would hurt US economy and thus also FDR .
4 Why did US not help the Jewish Germans who wanted to emigrate to the US ?
5 Why did US not help China but Japan after the rape of Nanking ?
6 US did help Salazar, Franco, Pinochet ,although these were not good guys for the liberals of DC .
6 Why did US not sanction Turkey after its invasion of Cyprus ?
7 Why did Reagan resume the export of US grain to the USSR after the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan ?
Think about that for a minute.
Mad Dog
Arms sales, lend lease, etc. After Hitler invaded, there ended up being a lot of dead Americans.
Pedantic much ?
Its entirely relevant to the claims you made earlier.
That's nice.DUESSELDORF (Reuters) - German arms-maker Rheinmetall is ready to greatly boost the output of tank and artillery munitions to satisfy strong demand in Ukraine and the West, and may start producing HIMARS multiple rocket launchers in Germany, CEO Armin Papperger told Reuters.
He spoke days before Germany's defence industry bosses are due to meet new defence minister Boris Pistorius for the first time, though the exact date has yet to be announced.
With the meeting, Pistorius aims to kick off talks on how to speed up weapons procurement and boost ammunitions supplies in the long term after almost a year of arms donations to Ukraine has depleted the German military's stocks.
Rheinmetall makes a range of defence products but is probably most famous for manufacturing the 120mm gun of the Leopard 2 tank.
"We can produce 240,000 rounds of tank ammunition (120mm) per year, which is more than the entire world needs," Papperger said in an interview with Reuters interview.
The capacity for the production of 155mm artillery rounds can be ramped up to 450,000 to 500,000 per year, he added, which would make Rheinmetall the biggest producer for both kinds of ammunition.
In 2022, Rheinmetall made some 60,000 to 70,000 rounds each of tank and artillery shells, according to Papperger, who said production could be boosted immediately.
Demand for these munitions has soared since Russia's invasion of Ukraine last February, not only due to their massive use on the battlefield but also as Western militaries backfill their own stocks, bracing for what they see as a heightened threat from Moscow.
Papperger said a new production line for medium calibre ammunition, used by German-built Gepard anti-aircraft tanks in Ukraine for example, would go live by mid-year.
Germany has been trying for months to find new munitions for the Gepard that its own military had decomissioned in 2010.
Indeed, except is sounds like Rheinmetall wants the cash up front to start pumping out this ordnance. From NATO's perspective, there's almost no other option. General Dynamics in the US is at full tilt on 155 ammo, in particular, but they can't nearly keep up. They're ramping it up, but this will take years to show up on the battlefield. The Swiss have released a large quantity of ammo (including 35 mm for the Gepard). This will help in the short term.Gooner1 wrote: ↑28 Jan 2023 23:40https://news.yahoo.com/rheinmetall-eyes ... 43281.html
That's nice.DUESSELDORF (Reuters) - German arms-maker Rheinmetall is ready to greatly boost the output of tank and artillery munitions to satisfy strong demand in Ukraine and the West, and may start producing HIMARS multiple rocket launchers in Germany, CEO Armin Papperger told Reuters.
He spoke days before Germany's defence industry bosses are due to meet new defence minister Boris Pistorius for the first time, though the exact date has yet to be announced.
With the meeting, Pistorius aims to kick off talks on how to speed up weapons procurement and boost ammunitions supplies in the long term after almost a year of arms donations to Ukraine has depleted the German military's stocks.
Rheinmetall makes a range of defence products but is probably most famous for manufacturing the 120mm gun of the Leopard 2 tank.
"We can produce 240,000 rounds of tank ammunition (120mm) per year, which is more than the entire world needs," Papperger said in an interview with Reuters interview.
The capacity for the production of 155mm artillery rounds can be ramped up to 450,000 to 500,000 per year, he added, which would make Rheinmetall the biggest producer for both kinds of ammunition.
In 2022, Rheinmetall made some 60,000 to 70,000 rounds each of tank and artillery shells, according to Papperger, who said production could be boosted immediately.
Demand for these munitions has soared since Russia's invasion of Ukraine last February, not only due to their massive use on the battlefield but also as Western militaries backfill their own stocks, bracing for what they see as a heightened threat from Moscow.
Papperger said a new production line for medium calibre ammunition, used by German-built Gepard anti-aircraft tanks in Ukraine for example, would go live by mid-year.
Germany has been trying for months to find new munitions for the Gepard that its own military had decomissioned in 2010.
You can't say :79 years ago US (and other countries as the USSR ! ) liberated the parts of Europe that were occupied by Germany ,thus the Europeans must follow the American policy concerning Ukraine .Tom Peters wrote: ↑28 Jan 2023 22:51Arms sales, lend lease, etc. After Hitler invaded, there ended up being a lot of dead Americans.
But hey, I guess there are no good state actors like you claims.
Pedantic much ?
Its entirely relevant to the claims you made earlier.
Mad Dog
I think most producers needs firm orders before ramping up production. Germany will no doubt dither and delay before eventually giving the orders. BAE, Nexter, Nammo, Leonardo et al are probably all in the same boat - waiting for the orders. I think that the Polish, Czech and Slovak ammunition manufacturers have been a bit more proactive and have already increased production.mezsat2 wrote: ↑29 Jan 2023 03:00
Indeed, except is sounds like Rheinmetall wants the cash up front to start pumping out this ordnance. From NATO's perspective, there's almost no other option. General Dynamics in the US is at full tilt on 155 ammo, in particular, but they can't nearly keep up. They're ramping it up, but this will take years to show up on the battlefield. The Swiss have released a large quantity of ammo (including 35 mm for the Gepard). This will help in the short term.
I never claimed that and what you say is something entirely irrelevant to our thread.
OK, well the Europeans as a whole support US policy on UKR, therefore, by your own logic, they should support UKR.
....according to the RU.Cult Icon wrote: ↑29 Jan 2023 14:16https://vk.com/milinfolive?w=wall-123538639_3404414
"This time, "Military Acceptance" is sent to the country's main artillery training center, the Mikhailovsky Military Artillery Academy. Established in 1820 after understanding the wars with Napoleon, the academy for 200 years remains the main forge of artillery personnel of the country. Moreover, very effective personnel: according to the head of the Academy, the share of fire damage to the enemy by artillery forces in a special military operation by the beginning of 2023 approached the figure of 80 percent."
80% (figure similar to the Italian front in WW2), if this is close to the truth than it is lower than I would have expected. The manner in which the Russian forces has been fighting makes it look more like 95%!