news from Russo-Ukraine Front

[Gooner1]

Biden is saying that for the moment China is not selling weapons to Russia . If he is right, this means that the hysterical stories from our media are only lies and that Russia does not need Chinese weapons .

To be fair, there hasn't been much 'hysteria' in the media per se, just a lot of excitement amongst the pro-Putinites like Cult Icon and Michael Kenny...

[Michael Kenny]

It's not the West that is losing power and influence because of the Ukraine war, it's your Russian chums,

It was Russia who destroyed the neocon attempt to break-up Syria and topple Assad. Now China is making all the running and the US is completely side-lined.


Even The New York Times is facing reality:

Saudi Arabia and Iran Agree to Restore Ties, in Talks Hosted by China
The deal between regional rivals underlines China’s growing economic and political importance in the Middle East, and what some analysts say is waning American influence. China hosted the talks that led to the breakthrough, highlighting Beijing’s growing role as a global economic and political power, and counterbalance to Washington — particularly in the Middle East, a region that was long shaped by the military and diplomatic involvement of the United States.

Seven years after cutting formal ties, Iran and Saudi Arabia will reopen embassies in each other’s countries within two months, and confirmed their “respect for the sovereignty of states and noninterference in their internal affairs,” they said in a joint statement published by the official Saudi Press Agency. Iran’s state news media also announced the deal.

[Aida1]

It's not the West that is losing power and influence because of the Ukraine war, it's your Russian chums,

It was Russia who destroyed the neocon attempt to break-up Syria and topple Assad. Now China is making all the running and the US is completely side-lined.


Even The New York Times is facing reality:

Saudi Arabia and Iran Agree to Restore Ties, in Talks Hosted by China
The deal between regional rivals underlines China’s growing economic and political importance in the Middle East, and what some analysts say is waning American influence. China hosted the talks that led to the breakthrough, highlighting Beijing’s growing role as a global economic and political power, and counterbalance to Washington — particularly in the Middle East, a region that was long shaped by the military and diplomatic involvement of the United States.

Seven years after cutting formal ties, Iran and Saudi Arabia will reopen embassies in each other’s countries within two months, and confirmed their “respect for the sovereignty of states and noninterference in their internal affairs,” they said in a joint statement published by the official Saudi Press Agency. Iran’s state news media also announced the deal.

Wishful thinking. Imagine somebody would want to topple the lover of humanity Assad. Unfortunately the intent to topple that mass murderer did not exist. Assad and Putin are both criminals.

[Aida1]

The refurbished Leopard 1s heading to Ukraine are in fact far superior to these primitive tanks.

By this time next year, Ukraine will be operating a few hundred of these upgraded machines, besides
the deadly Leopard 2s.

1 They can be far superior only if they fight against the T54 and it is the Russians who will decide that : if the Leo1 is superior to the T54 ,the Russians will not commit the T54 against the Leo1 .
2 There is no proof that next year hundreds of Leo1s will operate in Ukraine and there is no proof that the L2 is deadly ( for whom ?).
3 Superior tanks do not decide a war or a campaign .

In the denial game as always. :roll: :roll:

[Michael Kenny]

It seems Zelensky is trying to get even more 'free stuff' before he acts out the wet dream of the old cold-war warriors.

No Ukraine offensive without more weapons – Zelensky

President Volodymyr Zelensky has said Ukraine's counter-offensive against Russia cannot start until Western allies send more military support.

He told a Japanese newspaper he would not send his troops to the frontlines without more tanks, artillery and Himars rocket launchers.

In an interview with Yomiuri Shimbun, he said the situation in eastern Ukraine was "not good".

"We are waiting for ammunition to arrive from our partners," he said.

And when asked about the expected counter-offensive, he said: "We can't start yet, we can't send our brave soldiers to the front line without tanks, artillery and long-range rockets."

He added: "If you have the political will, you can find a way to help us. We are at war and can't wait."

There has been talk for some weeks of Ukraine launching a spring offensive against Russian forces. Ukrainian commanders have hinted it might be imminent. Oleksandr Syrskyi, commander of Ukraine's ground forces, said this week it might come "very soon".

Some analysts say Ukraine's military is talking up the idea of a counter-offensive to discomfit their Russian counterparts. They want Russian commanders to spread their forces thinly along the front lines, ready for any attack, rather than concentrate them in particular places, such as the eastern city of Bakhmut.

Other analysts believe a counter-offensive is possible soon. A US-based think tank, the Institute for the Study of War, last week suggested that Russia's own offensive was potentially losing momentum and concluded: "Ukraine is therefore well positioned to regain the initiative and launch counter-offensives in critical sectors of the current frontline."

But President Zelensky is more pessimistic. He has often warned that the war could drag on for years unless Western allies speeded up the delivery of weapons. But this is the first time he has actually said the counter-offensive itself might be delayed by the lack of Western equipment.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-65075952

[Tom Peters]

I might also add the US took far more pains to control civ casualties than the RU ideal of flattening everything with artillery.

Sure they did.

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Perhaps by using high-tech precision-guided white phosphorus shells ?

You must be the type of person for whom the term 'collateral damage' was invented. A euphemism used by apologist to excuse the inexcusable.

You must be the type of person who likes to post random pictures and make random assumptions.

Any more Whataboutism you would like to engage ?

Mad Dog

[Tom Peters]

I think this is largely unlikely.

The main problem is that:PLAN carrier formations have not yet developed enough capability to land on Taiwan - although in mainland China, people has overconfidence in the vision of unifying Taiwan and an extremely high level of support （consider as Chinese civil war continue and The sacred mission of unifying the motherland） for the war compared to Russia.

But considering that however much U.S. and European resources Russia has attracted to the war in Ukraine, it is unlikely to distract the U.S. Navy to Europe, and the PLAN is definitely not willing to go to war today with the possibility of U.S. intervention in the Taiwan situation.

Tom, on this point you can rest assured that our high-ranking government officials is a bunch of cowards with limited ability and knowledge, and who come from descendants of the early Communist Party hierarchy.

Xi Jinping's adoption of a changing constitutional to continue his third term is an example - he seeks absolute political stability and will never allow anyone to threaten his position. So I'm not so sure he'll start a war that he might lose.

Several naval analyses put the PLAN sealift capability adequate by 2025. I dont know if this counts the dual-use civilian transport.

I really hope the situation between CH and TW avoids conflict. It will take many years to mitigate the global economic damage form the RU invasion of UKR.

Mad Dog

[Tom Peters]

1 They do not LOOK in bad shape : this is not a serious argument :that they do not look in bad shape is not a proof that they can/ will be used in the war .

Once again, you couldnt read my entire response, could you ?

They were able to move into place on the loading dock. They look to be in good condition. Taken as a whole this suggests they are in working order.

Do you somehow think the RU MOD decided to make a bunch of T-54 look good but not run, then go to the work of shipping them West ?

It is possible that they will be used to replace other,modern tanks that are going to the front .

Yuri suggested they could be used for training. Thats isnt entirely unreasonable.

Besides : for tanks to be used in a war, more than tanks are needed : crew is also needed ,and fuel, ammunition, infantry .Is the crew of these tanks waiting on their arrival ? And can this crew work with these tanks ?

Why are you asking me ? Ask the idiots in the RU MOD who thought this was a good idea.

The Potemkin villages also did not look in bad shape .

The RU military IS the Potemkin village.

4 About the T55 tanks :
The Kyiv Independent ( not independent ) wrote the following on 1 September 2022 :
'' We can not expect Russia to run critically low on tanks anytime soon . ''
and
'' Despite heavy losses Russia has enough machines to continue waging its war for years .''

You dont renovate T-54 and send them towards the front unless you have no choice. Plain and simple.

Mad Dog

[Cult Icon]

Ukrainian sources show that the pincer around Adiivka city is tightening. The Ukrainian command seems to have chosen Bakhmut over Adiivka, lion's share of reserves have been sent there.

[Cult Icon]

"Russia to store nuclear weapons in Belarus – Putin
Moscow will finish building a storage for tactical arms in the neighboring country by July, the Russian president has said"


https://www.rt.com/russia/573589-nuclea ... e-belarus/

Can't wait for WW3!

[wm]

A pointless propaganda gesture of a failed leader.
Because Nato isn't going to invade, and he can't use the bomb against the Ukrainians.

[Tom Peters]

Ukraine being forced to use the M-55S is a proof of the strategic bankruptcy of the Ukrainian command .And also of their incompetence .
Why did they not ask 35 military trucks from Germany ?

Blah blah blah, already covered this. You dont read.

From my post #3718:

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And yes, UKR having the necessity of receiving the M-55S is something of a humiliation. However, this is mitigated somewhat by several important points:
1) UKR is not a world power, and is barely even a local power,
2) UKR has no choice in matter as their domestic tank production is virtually nil,
3) UKR did not invade RU
4) The M-55S is far superior to the T-54/55 and likely a match for the T-62 (yes, not exactly a front line unit)
---

Try reading before you post. Its less embarrassing for you.

Mad Dog

[Tom Peters]

"The M-55S is significantly different from its predecessor. The tank received a new gun – a 105 mm Royal Ordnance L7 with a thermal insulation jacket, one of the most successful tank guns of all time. The tower and hull were covered with additional reactive armor, which even changed the silhouette of the tank, bringing it closer to modern ones. The M-55S received a digital ballistic computer and gun stabilization, a Fotona SGS-55 sight with a laser rangefinder, a Fotona COMTOS-55 commander’s sight, an improved engine, and new rubber-metal tracks, and even a LIRD-1A laser radiation detector linked to the smoke grenade launcher IS-6.

Its magic, just like George Washingtons axe.

No, M. Kenny. Not magic. No one claimed this. Its better than the RU T-54. Thats all we are saying. Well, except ljadw, who claims it isnt any better despite the evidence presented to him.

Why dont you give us your opinion - do you think the M-55S is a better tank than the RU T-54 being shipped west ?

We eagerly anticipate your response.

Mad Dog

[Tom Peters]

While no one said that an upgraded tank B can not be superior to a non upgraded tank B ,

Actually you did just that, in post#3722 . Allow me to rub your face in it:

"3 The M-55 S is an other name for the vintage Soviet T-55 and can thus not be superior to the Russian T-55"


Mad Dog

[Tom Peters]

Biden is saying that for the moment China is not selling weapons to Russia . If he is right, this means that the hysterical stories from our media are only lies and that Russia does not need Chinese weapons .

Well, M. Kenny claims CH will sell weapons to RU, so I guess it remains to be seen. I hope not, but time will tell.

Mad Dog