Knight's Cross Holders Identification

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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

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Post by Sinjoorke » 30 Mar 2023, 15:32

Andyzor wrote:
28 Mar 2023, 23:59
Hello,
pls help to recognize
img455n+
Thank you
In the same picture, besides Ude, Benzin and v Hase, are also identifiable in the background between Goebbels and v Hase, later RKT,
SS-Oscha Friedrich Buck and SS-Rttfhr. Hans Hirning.
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Hugo.

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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

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Post by Sinjoorke » 30 Mar 2023, 15:52

Andyzor wrote:
28 Mar 2023, 23:21
Hello,
pls help to recognize
img452k+
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Maj. Fritz Scholz.
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Hugo.


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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

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Post by Sinjoorke » 30 Mar 2023, 17:31

Ingward wrote:
29 Mar 2023, 08:16
Are you sure it's (98bf204c-7dec-45ee-85d4-1d4f94c299d2) Jobst-Hilmar von Bose? I very much doubt that in March 1945 he was sitting relaxed and drinking beer, basking in the sun, which was covered with smoke of fires! I believe it could be Kurt Christofzik, and once someone made a mistake and these two people began to replace one with the other! Sorry for the doubts!
Hi Ingward,
from where the knowledge that the pic. was taken march '45?
Besides that, you well know that one of the reference points are the ears, you can see them as fingerprints. Mistakes can happen, it's human, but in this case I'm pretty sure about the ID and that it surely can't be Christofzik, although I don't have so many good quality photo's for a clear comparison. Here are some examples for you to compare yourself.
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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

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Post by AlifRafikKhan » 30 Mar 2023, 17:39

Hi Alif, it's Gen. Karl von Oven (XXXXIII. AK) & Gen.Lt. Paul Seyffardt (205. ID)
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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

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Post by Ingward » 30 Mar 2023, 18:02

Jobst-Hilmar von Bose was awarded the DKiG on March 22,1945.Yeah, it's not the right time to relax and have a beer! Especially on the Eastern Front! Well, let's assume that you are right. Although, if we compare the photo (von Bose Jobst-Hilmar) 06b with the photo (Christowzik Kurt) 02b, it is clearly visible that the left ear is the same in both photos.

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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

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Post by George Lengyel » 30 Mar 2023, 20:01

Sinjoorke wrote:
30 Mar 2023, 17:31
Ingward wrote:
29 Mar 2023, 08:16
Are you sure it's (98bf204c-7dec-45ee-85d4-1d4f94c299d2) Jobst-Hilmar von Bose? I very much doubt that in March 1945 he was sitting relaxed and drinking beer, basking in the sun, which was covered with smoke of fires! I believe it could be Kurt Christofzik, and once someone made a mistake and these two people began to replace one with the other! Sorry for the doubts!
Hi Ingward,
from where the knowledge that the pic. was taken march '45?
Besides that, you well know that one of the reference points are the ears, you can see them as fingerprints. Mistakes can happen, it's human, but in this case I'm pretty sure about the ID and that it surely can't be Christofzik, although I don't have so many good quality photo's for a clear comparison. Here are some examples for you to compare yourself.
Hi Hugo and Ingward,

They were both wrong. Erich Glaeser is shown in the photo.

Regards,
George

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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

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Post by harmel » 30 Mar 2023, 20:19

Ref von Bose! Scheibert has him as DkiG as was posted, but Ritterkreuz Teil 111
Infanterie Bi -Bo by Biblio has him as a recipient on the 27/7/44 which he won on
the Western Front hence maybe the beer!!! but at the time of this award was already
an Oberst but photo shows an Obstlt.I know a lot of officers did not always wear there medals for certain reasons
but he did have the Spange to IC 1st Class and also 2nd Class-WB in black-Winter Medal-and Inf Ass Badge(Silver) all
won before award 0f DKiG. Harmel

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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

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Post by Sinjoorke » 30 Mar 2023, 21:47

George Lengyel wrote:
30 Mar 2023, 20:01

Hi Hugo and Ingward,

They were both wrong. Erich Glaeser is shown in the photo.

Regards,
George
Hi George,
oh yes! Wonderfull, so I was still wrong :oops: . Thanks very much George!
Hugo.

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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

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Post by Ingward » 31 Mar 2023, 02:59

I am very glad that the person depicted in the photo has been identified! Very grateful!

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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

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Post by HILL60 » 31 Mar 2023, 04:05

Andyzor wrote:
24 Mar 2023, 00:22
Hello,
pls help to recognize
img439p+
Thank you
I think this is Josef Papesch

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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

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Post by Schuddie » 31 Mar 2023, 04:52

Gents,
this is a portrait of Jobst-Hilmar Graf v. Bose labeled on the reverse side by his widow in the mid 50ies.
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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

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Post by Ingward » 31 Mar 2023, 09:07

Gentlemen! So who is still depicted in the photo № 4 page 1560 post 23387? I already have a headache from this unsolvable riddle!

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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

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Post by joerg » 31 Mar 2023, 16:10

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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

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Post by gunter83 » 01 Apr 2023, 00:05

SS-Stubaf is Rudolf Pannier
Die zweite Nummer, aber nicht auf der Tapferkeit!
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Re: Knight's Cross Holders Identification

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Post by HILL60 » 01 Apr 2023, 08:33

Hello good people, is this Werner Gust the Eichenlaub holder?
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