Who is this officer from GroßDeutschland?

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Who is this officer from GroßDeutschland?

Post by Waland66 » 04 Aug 2003 14:11

Hi!

Who is this officer from the GroßDeutschland division?
I think he is a Oberst.

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Post by J.N. Houterman » 05 Aug 2003 00:33

When the picture is taken in the summer of 1943 it could perhaps be the Ia, Ob. Oldwig von Natzmer. DKiG April 1943, RK Sept. 1943. His face bears some resemblance, though it's hard to tell.

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Post by Waland66 » 05 Aug 2003 10:19

Thank you Hans!

I have seen a picture of him, but there he has dark hair.
So i don't know....

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Post by Elwyn W » 06 Aug 2003 04:25

Hi,

Obst Erich Koehler? Kmdt Inf Rgt 1 GD. Killed Dec 1, 1942. Posthumously promoted GenMj. DKiG. I enclose three pics.

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Post by Waland66 » 06 Aug 2003 12:09

Hi!

That looks more like him, yes.
Thanks Freiherr.

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Post by Glenn2438 » 06 Aug 2003 16:04

Hi,

I don't think it is Oberst Erich Koehler. The same officer is pictured next to General der Pioniere Alfred Jakob in the photograph below. Jakob was awarded the Knight's Cross of the War Merit Cross in June 1943. Koehler was killed in December 1942.

This officer's uniform has the Black Pioniere Waffenfarbe. He is very likely a senior member of the Inspector of Railway Pioneers and Fortress's (Jakob) staff.

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Post by Galicia » 06 Aug 2003 20:18

If you're really interested, trace his awards. Look what he's wearing:

1. Both Iron Crosses
2. War Merit Cross, 2nd Class
3. Some Army Long Service Medals
4. Ostfront Medal
5. German Cross

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Post by Waland66 » 06 Aug 2003 22:22

Hi all.

Are we agree that it is the GroßDeutschland armcuff he is wearing?

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Post by Waland66 » 07 Aug 2003 14:15

Hi!

Can it be Erich Kahsnitz?

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Post by J.N. Houterman » 07 Aug 2003 14:26

Kaschnitz is a fair possibility. Again a good resemblance. The pic has to be taken then in June or July 1943 (after Jacob got his award and before Kaschnitz was killed).

But as stated here before it could well be a staff officer of Jacob. As Kaschnitz was not...

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Post by Waland66 » 07 Aug 2003 20:08

Hi!

But he is a GroßDeutschland officer, or?

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Post by Waland66 » 08 Aug 2003 22:25

Hi!

I think i have the name: Hans-Detlev Chrapkowski, can it be him.
Here is apicture i found of him on a site:

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Post by J.N. Houterman » 08 Aug 2003 23:43

A nice guess. Got the DKiG on 28 May 1944 as Major in the Panzer-Pionier-Bataillon "Grossdeutschland". Could be the link with the Pioniere general Jacob. There are probably some experts around to see if his rank & further decorations match. There seems to be some age difference between the persons on the different pictures though, although it remains hard to tell.

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Post by Elwyn W » 09 Aug 2003 05:59

Hi,

Here are two additional pics of Chrapkowski. In Pic1 he was with Breith. He strikes me a above average in height -- not the case with the mystery oberst in the picture with Jacob, unless Jacob was really tall. Pic2 also shows Chrapkowski with a bar to his WW1 iron cross. The oberst next to Jacon didn't.

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