Knight's Cross Holders Identification

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Post by FANGIO » 19 Mar 2004, 17:07

Many thanks for the info Denis. Just one question: "18.FHJ-LHRGANG" what does it mean?
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Post by HT » 20 Mar 2004, 03:36

oppps , my mistake , mistaking FHJ for FSJ

sorry!!!
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Post by J.N. Houterman » 20 Mar 2004, 09:38

Ain't it:

18. Fahnenjunker-Lehrgang = 18th officer cadets' course ?

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Post by Elwyn W » 20 Mar 2004, 18:17

Could anyone confirm this is GenMj Hans Ulrich Karl Back? Cursory check on the ribbon bars, the ears and the lips seem to fit the bill.
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Post by J.N. Houterman » 20 Mar 2004, 18:21

Yes, that's Back.

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Post by Elwyn W » 20 Mar 2004, 18:42

Could anyone confirm this is GenMj Hans Ulrich Karl Back? Cursory check on the ribbon bars, the ears and the lips seem to fit the bill.
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Post by Elwyn W » 20 Mar 2004, 18:48

This RKT was indentified as Oberwachmeister Günther Carsten also by Franz Kurowski. Yet http://www.das-ritterkreuz doesn't list him. Look very much like the Bremerhaven RKT that was captured by the British 21st army I posted on Page 18 of this thread. Could nayone tell me more?

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Günter Chrzonsz = Carsten (changed name after the war) / AHF id
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Post by Elwyn W » 21 Mar 2004, 00:51

freiherr wrote:Purportedly a Eichenlaubträger from StukaG 77.

I think there were only 6:
Karl Henze, Helmut Bruck, Georg Jakob, Franz Kieslich, Alexander Glaeser and Gerhard Steudemann. Can anyone confirm that it was a young Glaeser? The RK looks pasted on.

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Wrong! It was Hptm Erpo Graf von Kageneck, EL #39. JG 27. Nothing to do with StukaG 77.

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Post by Elwyn W » 21 Mar 2004, 00:55

Is this Mj Theodor Weissenberger? EL-träger #266

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Post by HT » 21 Mar 2004, 02:04

freiherr wrote:Is this Mj Theodor Weissenberger? EL-träger #266

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I don't think so - Doesn't look like him & have no pilot clasp on his uniform.
Maybe paratrooper ?

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Post by Elwyn W » 22 Mar 2004, 05:37

Who are the two RKT in this series of pictures with Guderian?
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Post by Elwyn W » 22 Mar 2004, 05:39

The remaining two pics
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Post by Denis » 22 Mar 2004, 13:08

HelloFreiherr
This is Günther Carsten. In fact, after the war, he changed his name and became Günther Chzronsz. I believed he is listed under this name on the German website.
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Post by Denis » 22 Mar 2004, 13:10

freiherr wrote:Is this Mj Theodor Weissenberger? EL-träger #266

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Hi again

This is Hemut Wick, on eof the very first EL träger.

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Post by Elwyn W » 22 Mar 2004, 14:49

Hi Denis,

Wick it was, with very little hair left! Thank you. Eichenlaubträger 4.

As to Günther CHRZONSZ, das-ritterkreuz.de said he was from StugAbt 277. I believe this unit fought mostly on the Eastern Front. He got his RK in 1943 so unless he was transferred to some Stug unit on the western front, there goes my theory that it was Chrzonsz.

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