Knight's Cross Holders Identification

FANGIO · Post by **FANGIO** » 19 Mar 2004 16:07

Many thanks for the info Denis. Just one question: "18.FHJ-LHRGANG" what does it mean?
Best regards.

FANGIO

HT · Post by HT » 20 Mar 2004 02:36

oppps , my mistake , mistaking FHJ for FSJ

sorry!!!

J.N. Houterman · Post by **J.N. Houterman** » 20 Mar 2004 08:38

Ain't it:

18. Fahnenjunker-Lehrgang = 18th officer cadets' course ?

Cheers,

Hans

Elwyn W · Post by **Elwyn W** » 20 Mar 2004 17:17

Could anyone confirm this is GenMj Hans Ulrich Karl Back? Cursory check on the ribbon bars, the ears and the lips seem to fit the bill.
Cheers
Freiherr

J.N. Houterman · Post by **J.N. Houterman** » 20 Mar 2004 17:21

Yes, that's Back.

Cheers,

Hans

Elwyn W · Post by **Elwyn W** » 20 Mar 2004 17:42

Could anyone confirm this is GenMj Hans Ulrich Karl Back? Cursory check on the ribbon bars, the ears and the lips seem to fit the bill.
Cheers
Freiherr

Elwyn W · Post by **Elwyn W** » 20 Mar 2004 17:48

This RKT was indentified as Oberwachmeister Günther Carsten also by Franz Kurowski. Yet http://www.das-ritterkreuz doesn't list him. Look very much like the Bremerhaven RKT that was captured by the British 21st army I posted on Page 18 of this thread. Could nayone tell me more?

Cheers
Freiherr

Günter Chrzonsz = Carsten (changed name after the war) / AHF id

Elwyn W · Post by **Elwyn W** » 20 Mar 2004 23:51

freiherr wrote:Purportedly a Eichenlaubträger from StukaG 77.

I think there were only 6:
Karl Henze, Helmut Bruck, Georg Jakob, Franz Kieslich, Alexander Glaeser and Gerhard Steudemann. Can anyone confirm that it was a young Glaeser? The RK looks pasted on.

Cheers
Freiherr

Wrong! It was Hptm Erpo Graf von Kageneck, EL #39. JG 27. Nothing to do with StukaG 77.

Cheers
Freiherr

Elwyn W · Post by **Elwyn W** » 20 Mar 2004 23:55

Is this Mj Theodor Weissenberger? EL-träger #266

Cheers
Freiherr

HT · Post by HT » 21 Mar 2004 01:04

freiherr wrote:Is this Mj Theodor Weissenberger? EL-träger #266

Cheers
Freiherr

I don't think so - Doesn't look like him & have no pilot clasp on his uniform.
Maybe paratrooper ?

Elwyn W · Post by **Elwyn W** » 22 Mar 2004 04:37

Who are the two RKT in this series of pictures with Guderian?
Cheers
Freiherr

Elwyn W · Post by **Elwyn W** » 22 Mar 2004 04:39

The remaining two pics

Denis · Post by **Denis** » 22 Mar 2004 12:08

HelloFreiherr
This is Günther Carsten. In fact, after the war, he changed his name and became Günther Chzronsz. I believed he is listed under this name on the German website.
Regards
Denis

Denis · Post by **Denis** » 22 Mar 2004 12:10

freiherr wrote:Is this Mj Theodor Weissenberger? EL-träger #266

Cheers
Freiherr

Hi again

This is Hemut Wick, on eof the very first EL träger.

Regards
Denis

Elwyn W · Post by **Elwyn W** » 22 Mar 2004 13:49

Hi Denis,

Wick it was, with very little hair left! Thank you. Eichenlaubträger 4.

As to Günther CHRZONSZ, das-ritterkreuz.de said he was from StugAbt 277. I believe this unit fought mostly on the Eastern Front. He got his RK in 1943 so unless he was transferred to some Stug unit on the western front, there goes my theory that it was Chrzonsz.

Cheers
Freiherr