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Gestapo Chief Heydrich Cracks Down on Czech Jews

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Post by Globalization41 » 26 Apr 2004, 19:52

Berlin, By Telephone to The New York
Times,
Tuesday, October 7, 1941: Stringent
new anti-Jewish measures as well as
measures against "certain Czech circles who
have been ostentatiously friendly to the Jews"
in the Bohemian Protectorate have been
decreed by Reinhard Heydrich, deputy
Gestapo leader and new German Protector for
Bohemia-Moravia. ... The measures require
that all Jews wear the yellow star of David on
their clothing, the closing of all synagogues
and "gathering places for subversive
elements," and stiff punishment for non-Jews
who carry on conversations with Jews.
... The
first measure is but an extension of the decree
issued over Herr Heydrich's name in Berlin
last month. According to the original decree,
certain classes of "part Jews" or Jews
connected by marriage with non-Jews were
exempted from having to wear the yellow
identification star. The new decree, valid only
for the protectorate,
sweeps away these
exemptions. ... The omnibus decree
comprising all these measures is said to have
been called forth by "knowledge gained from
the investigations in the protectorate thus far."
[Behind the vast Eastern Front at this time,
German S.S. police forces were
systematically shooting unarmed Jews by the
hundreds of thousands.]
... Investigations of
hundreds of other Czechs suspected of having
a part in planned revolt
continues. The total
number of persons executed in the past seven
days is confused by inconsistent reports from
the protectorate, but all reports indicate that
more than 150 have been killed and some
claim as many as 200. ... It was officially
announced today that the execution of the
former Czech Premier, General Alois Elias,
had been indefinitely postponed. General
Elias has appealed for mercy but no final
decision has been handed down. The reason
for the present reprieve, as given by German
sources, is that General Elias's testimony is
needed in other investigations
in progress. ...
More specific information regarding the
charges on which many Czechs have already
been executed was released today. Most of
the charges involved espionage for Britain
and Russia, illegal possession and collecting
of firearms,
and aiding to smuggle young
Czechs out of the country to join the forces of
Germany's foes. ... The Gestapo in Prague
discovered one of 15 secret radio stations at
the Prague insane asylum, according to
information obtained here yesterday. The
director of the institute, Dr. Kaffka, was shot
this report said. The other stations continue
to broadcast.

London, Associated Press, The New York
Times,
Tuesday, October 7, 1941: The
British Government announced today that it
was collecting evidence regarding Germans
who might be responsible for murder,
oppression, and cruelty to hostages and
others in German-occupied territories. ...
Richard K. Law, Under-Secretary of Foreign
Affairs, told the House of Commons that the
government had the subject of post-war
punishment
for such individuals under
consideration and that the Foreign Office was
discussing the matter with allied governments.
... Reporting on this development, the British
Broadcasting Corporation listed the names of
Reinhard Heydrich, Reich Protector for
Bohemia-Moravia; Josef Terboven, German
Commissioner for Norway; Lieut. Gen.
Alexander Ernst von Falkenhausen,
German
commander for Belgium; and Heinrich von
Stuelpnagel,
commander of France. [Since
the Soviets offered the only hope of defeating
Hitler, western democracies suppressed
knowledge of Stalin's atrocities.]


London, Wireless to The New York Times,
Tuesday, October 7, 1941: British submarines
operating in the Mediterranean have again hit
hard at Italy's Navy and her supply ships
engaged in the Axis endeavor to reinforce the
forces in Libya with men and materials. ...
The British Admiralty announced today that
eleven more ships had been either sunk or hit
by torpedoes
and seriously damaged.
[Shipping schedules were known to the
British through the decoding of German
radio intercepts.]
... The Italian Navy has lost a
635-ton torpedo boat, a guard vessel, a supply
ship of about 3,500 tons, and a sailing vessel
laden with Italian troops,
the British declared,
adding that all these are known definitely to
have been sunk. ... A 6,000-ton tanker was
struck by torpedoes and left blazing furiously
with a heavy list, the Admiralty communique
continued; another tanker, the 5,900-ton Italian
Liri,
was left seriously damaged after a direct
hit with a torpedo; and two 5,000-ton
transports, one large supply ship, and two
medium-sized supply ships also were hit by
torpedoes, but conditions did not permit the
British submarines to ascertain beyond doubt
whether these sank.

Ankara, Turkey, Special Broadcast to The
New York Times,
Tuesday, October 7, 1941:
The Turkish Government agreed today to
deliver chromium to Germany in 1943, after
the expiration of the present agreement with
Great Britain. In exchange, Germany will
immediately deliver war materials to Turkey.

Cairo, Egypt, Wireless to The New York
Times,
Tuesday, October 7, 1941: A
communique today reported that one British
officer and eight men were either killed or
captured by a large force of Germans after a
brief battle between patrols in the frontier area.
early yesterday. ... The British party was
returning from a raid deep into Axis-held
territory when it met an overwhelming number
of Germans, it was added. ... Despite such
occasional setbacks, British raiding is
regarded as having proved effective along the
frontier near Tobruk, as evidenced by a foray,
carried out by members of the Tobruk garrison
the same night, that resulted in the obtaining of
much useful information and the capture of two
Italian prisoners. A dust storm later yesterday
interfered with visibility and put a temporary
stop to raiding on both sides. ... R.A.F. heavy
bombers used the fire set aboard a tanker by
the leading aircraft as a beacon Sunday night
and yesterday morning, and dropped bombs
squarely upon two other vessels in Tripoli
harbor.
... Several Axis warplanes were
reported damaged the same night during a
Fleet Air Arm raid upon airdromes and
seaplane bases at Marsala, Catania, and
Gerbini in Sicily. ... Bengazi was reported
raided two nights in succession, with hits on
several vessels.

Berlin, By Telephone to The New York
Times,
Tuesday, October 7, 1941: German
troops carrying out a part of Reichsfuehrer
Hitler's new operations to crush the Red Army
before Winter, have occupied Mariupol on the
Sea of Azov [on the eastern side of the
Crimean peninsula]
and are less than 200
miles from Rostov
on the Don, an authorized
German spokesman declared tonight. ... The
spokesman said that, in addition to Mariupol,
the harbor of Ossipenko [Berdyansk] had
been occupied by the armies of General Field
Marshal Karl von Rundstedt
in the Ukraine.
The two harbors were reported taken in a vast
enveloping manoeuvre described in today's
High Command communique as the first result
of Herr Hitler's new operations. ... According
to the communique, motorized units and
powerful armored formations cut deep into the
Russian Army's lines of retreat
in this area and
captured the entire staff of the Ninth Soviet
Army except its commander in chief, who had
escaped eastward by airplane. ... The
spokesman said the encircled Soviet forces in
the region north of the Sea of Azov were in
confusion and that the action could no longer
be characterized as a battle, but as a "pursuit"
-- a term, he emphasized, that was used in
German military reports only when an action
was in its closing phases. ... Economically, as
well as strategically,
this information is held
here to represent one of the severest blows
yet suffered by the armies of Marshal Semyon
Budenny
in the south. ... It means the loss of
important airplane and armor-plate works, in
addition to the important Ordjonikidse foundry,
which are distributed in this area. The Dienst
Aus Deutschland
declared the occupation of
the two ports made the defenses of the
Eastern Ukraine "virtually untenable" by
outflanking the Soviet armies there. ... This
occupation also brings the German southern
armies to within little more than 100 miles of
the easternmost city occupied by the Kaiser's
forces in the World War
-- Rostov, at the
mouth of the Don River. Reports from D.N.B.,
the official news agency, said the German Air
Force had already begun "softening up" this
city with daylight raids.
... Kharkov, the
Western Ukrainian industrial sector, also was
reported attacked again in daylight raids, as
was the neighboring town of Kramatorskaya,
where important Soviet units of the heavy
industries, including the Stalin and Kirov
foundries, are said to be situated. ... The
Russians have not been remiss in returning
blows in this area. D.N.B. dispatches told of
strong Soviet counter-attacks, but declared
they had been beaten back and that the
German advance continued. ... In the battle
for Leningrad
in the north, the Russian Army
and Navy yesterday cooperated in attempts to
land troops behind the German lines, both on
the shore of Lake Ladoga and the southern
coast of the Gulf of Finland, with the aim of
relieving the pressure on Leningrad. Both
manoeuvres were reported to have failed,
though a small landing party set foot on the
Gulf of Finland coast, but was unable to hold
the ground, it was said. Reduced Soviet land
attacks from inside the Leningrad area were
reported,
but likewise were said to have been
repulsed. ... Aside from a report of another air
raid on Moscow, information from the Central
Front was conspicuously meager.
An official
spokesman in Berlin spoke of a "hermetic
silence" concerning this sector.

Jerusalem, Special Cable to The New
York Times,
Tuesday, October 7, 1941:
Throughout this week Palestine Jews will have
a recruiting campaign to get thousands of
young Jews for the British Army, which has
more than 10,000. It is hoped to raise at least
5,000 more. ... Jewish officers and soldiers,
who already are veterans of Greece, Crete,
Syria, and the Western Desert of North Africa,
are assisting the orators. A rally at Tel Aviv is
scheduled for Thursday.
... The campaign is
being sponsored by the leading central Jewish
institutions whose slogan is "Jews are fighting
with the Allies for victory." ... Army
commanders speak highly of the service of
Palestine soldiers
in the Middle East
campaigns.

Washington, Special to The New York
Times,
Tuesday, October 7, 1941: By a vote
of 69-25, the House today refused to withhold
all aid from Russia under a bill that expands
the lending authority of the R.F.C.
[Reconstruction Finance Corporation] by
$1,500,000,000. ... The amendment that
prohibited aid to Russia and which was voted
down
was proposed by Representative
Frederick C. Smith (Republican, Ohio) [who
said]
"I am not in favor of spending the
American taxpayers' money to aid the
Communist regime in Russia. We are not in a
position where we are compelled to do so."
Further, he maintained that Jesse Jones,
Federal Loan Administrator, had not given
adequate guarantees, when testifying before
the House Banking and Currency Committee,
that none of the $1,500,000,000 would go to
the Soviet Union. The House adopted the
R.F.C. bill by a voice vote. ... Representative
Hamilton Fish of New York said that Mr. Jones
had informed him no such aid [to Russia in
the R.F.C. bill]
was contemplated,
but [Fish]
insisted that the Russian question would be
discussed "thoroughly" when the
$5,985,000,000 lease-lend bill reaches the
floor tomorrow. ... Opponents of the
Administration's foreign policy promised a
strong fight
against extending lease-lend
assistance to Russia.

The New York Times, Late Tuesday,
October 7, 1941:
British destroyers have
intercepted and captured a French freighter
carrying railroad equipment to North Africa for
the new line being built to strategic Dakar,
marine circles said [Tuesday] night,
according to The Associated Press. ... They
reported that the 2,385-ton freighter Isac was
captured after a boarding party prevented her
crew from scuttling the craft. British sources
said the ship was liable to capture because
she came from Bordeaux in occupied France.
She was bound for Casablanca. Her general
cargo included three locomotive chassis,
sugar, and other supplies.

[Stay tuned for late breaking war bulletins.
... Globalization41.]

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Post by Ostuf Charlemagne » 27 Apr 2004, 02:25

Why are you surprised ... Do you think this is a great discovering ?? It was is job to do that . Jews were considered as enemies of Germany since the unilateral declaration of war from Chaim Weizman president of the World Jewish Congress in August 1939 ,where he declared war on Germany in name of all the jews , two weeks before the real war started . Use common sense ,please .That was exactly what Heydrich was payed for .


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War of Annihilation

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Post by Globalization41 » 27 Apr 2004, 04:02

The Nazis and Zionists engaged in a war of
annihilation. Both ideologies were based on
racial and/or religious myths. The Zionists
(with help) won. ... I'm just a neutral observer
of 1941 history.

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Post by David Thompson » 27 Apr 2004, 04:46

Globalization41 -- You said:
The Nazis and Zionists engaged in a war of annihilation.
Prove it when you post or don't bother to say it.

You also said:
I'm just a neutral observer of 1941 history.
That remains to be seen. Certainly, equating the Zionists and Nazis in 1941 falls far short of your claim of neutrality. In any event, this section of the forum is for the discussion of war crimes. Stay on subject or move on.

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Zionists, Nazis Not Equal

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Post by Globalization41 » 27 Apr 2004, 06:13

The Zionists and Nazis were not equal in
1941. The Nazis were winning. They were
shooting Jews by the hundreds of thousands
in Eastern Europe in a war of annihilation.
Zionists by definition would not have
advocated neutrality.

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Post by David Thompson » 27 Apr 2004, 06:40

Globalization41 -- You said:
The Zionists and Nazis were not equal in 1941. The Nazis were winning. They were shooting Jews by the hundreds of thousands in Eastern Europe in a war of annihilation. Zionists by definition would not have advocated neutrality.
Your statement sidesteps the issue. Your challenged proposition was:
The Nazis and Zionists engaged in a war of annihilation.
What evidence, if any, do you have that "the Zionists" were engaged in "a war of annihilation" in 1941? If you do not have any such evidence, don't post the claim.

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War of Annihilation

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Post by Globalization41 » 27 Apr 2004, 08:01

David. A war of annihilation against the Nazis
was in its early stages and gaining momentum
by the end of 1941.
The main coalition
arrayed against the Nazis included America,
Britain, and the Soviet Union. Jewish
organizations (which would include Zionists)
were unconditionally allied with Hitler's
enemies.
Eventually the Nazis were
annihilated. ... What argumentative proof can
you offer that the Zionists did not do their duty
in the war of annihilation against Hitlerism
and Nazism?

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Post by Mostowka » 27 Apr 2004, 10:57

since the unilateral declaration of war from Chaim Weizman president of the World Jewish Congress in August 1939
Wrong, You should really know better Ostuf. Jews were always considered enemies, wheither they had made some hollow war declaration or not. Jews were deemed enemies by Hitler when he wrote Mein Kampf and Jews were the enemies when he became head of the reich.

So what did the "declaration of war" (which I would rather have some good sources for, Ostuf) mean in fact - NOTHING ! It is absurd to think of the fascist war against Jews as some kind of defensive action.

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Declaration of War on Behalf of World's Jews

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Post by Globalization41 » 27 Apr 2004, 15:40

I wonder what Jews living under German
sovereignty would have thought about a
declaration of war on their behalf against
Nazism by someone in an office at a safe
distance?

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Post by David Thompson » 27 Apr 2004, 16:24

Globalization41 -- You claimed:
The Nazis and Zionists engaged in a war of annihilation.
I replied:
Prove it when you post or don't bother to say it.
After trying to change the subject to whether "the Zionists" could be expected to be neutral in the "war of annihilation" against Nazism, you countered:
What argumentative proof can you offer that the Zionists did not do their duty in the war of annihilation against Hitlerism and Nazism?

In this section of the forum, the burden of proof is on the claimant. See the H&WC Section Rules on Questions, Claims and Proof at:

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=47046

Non-conforming or off-topic matter is subject to deletion after warning. This is yours.

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Post by Globalization41 » 27 Apr 2004, 20:08

I stand corrected until further notice. My
opinion that the Zionists (with help) engaged
the Nazis in a war of annihilation is based on
circumstantial evidence, as stated above, that
could not be proven in a court of law. I totally
apologize for the oversight on my part. ... For
the record, it's my opinion that Hitler knew of
and encouraged the Holocaust, based on
circumstantial evidence I've accumulated from
authentic news-clippings from 1941. But I have
no documented proof that Hitler actually signed
an official order initiating the Holocaust. The
German press all but called for the
extermination of the Jews coincident to the
actual mass shootings on the Eastern Front in
1941 which kicked off the official Holocaust.
I suspect that Hitler monitored and ultimately
controlled the German press. ... Most of the
material I've collected concerns the seemingly
ever-expanding World War in 1941. I usually
post in other sections. If not too inconvenient,
would it be possible to move this topic and
subsequent posts to a less sensitive section
(as opposed to deletion)?

Globalization41.

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Post by David Thompson » 27 Apr 2004, 22:10

Globalization41 -- I don't delete primary source material like contemporaneous New York Times news articles. Look around and you'll see that I post them myself.

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=47498

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=21491

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=18281

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Post by stiegs5 » 01 May 2004, 01:02

Of course you're never going to find a document which ties Hitler officially to the Holocaust. That's a no brainer. Isn't that what the meeting in Wansee was all about? In a deliberate, indirect way, Hitler used layers of beurocracy while still ordering through word of mouth, the annihilation of European Jews. Watch "Conspiracy" starring Kennith Brannaugh and Colin Firth. It's an interesting take on what may have happened at this meeting which outlined the details of these events.

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Post by David Thompson » 02 May 2004, 00:10

Two off-topic posts by Globalization41 on the subject of "Jewish chauvinism" and anti-semitism, and a tart response by xcalibur pointing out that the remarks were off-topic, were all deleted by the moderator - DT.

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