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He 177
Does anybody know how many He 177 were ever built?
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Sorry! I confused the He 177 with the Ju 287!!!!!!!!I wrote:
He 177 V1, which flew Aug, 16, 1944
He 177 V2, which didn't flew and was captured by the Russians and was flown by them in 1947
That's all, I think
plus 35 He 177A-0 by Arado.Maddercat wrote:
He177V1 flew 19 November 1939
Arado built 130 He177A1
Heinkel Factory built 170 He177A3
826 He177A5 were built by both companies (or maybe more companies)
Again, sorry for my mistake. I'm really sorry.
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Yeah you're right. He 277 and his brother He 274 were (finally I can say) the long dreamed Luftwaffe heavy bombers but as we know they comed to the scene too late. It's quite strange when you think that the Luftwaffe had a would be capable weapon in 1940 - 1941. I wonder why they didn't try to add 2 more engines to the He 177 airframe making it a quadrimotor in the british fashion? or at least uncouple the engines and use counterrotative propellers?Kurt_Steiner wrote:It's a pity that the He 177 succesor, the He 277, wasn't used with the Luftwaffe. I think it was better then the failure of his predecessor.
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rcristi2271 wrote
By the way, I cannot explain why, but the He 274 doesn't convince me as a strategic bomber. Silly, isn't it?
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I fully agree with you, my friend. But you know how the Germans are. Always trying to do the impossible...I wonder why they didn't try to add 2 more engines to the He 177 airframe making it a quadrimotor in the british fashion? or at least uncouple the engines and use counterrotative propellers?
By the way, I cannot explain why, but the He 274 doesn't convince me as a strategic bomber. Silly, isn't it?
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Why not my friend, He 274 and He 277 were actually the same aircraft, the major difference that I see is that the He 274 was developed in occupied France. They shared even the engines: DB 603, although He 277 was to be equiped with Jumo 213.By the way, I cannot explain why, but the He 274 doesn't convince me as a strategic bomber. Silly, isn't it?
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The reason I have most often read for the coupled engines was to reduce drag during a dive. As usual, the Luftwaffe's tech department insisted that the bomber should be able to dive! Of course, sending such a large aircraft into a dive must have felt like you were fliying a falling brick!
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The reason I have most often read for the coupled engines was to reduce drag during a dive. As usual, the Luftwaffe's tech department insisted that the bomber should be able to dive! Of course, sending such a large aircraft into a dive must have felt like you were fliying a falling brick!
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The He 274 had a bigger wingspan than the He 277 (145 feet for He 274 vs. 131 feet for He 277), and it was only intended for high-altitude, something the He 277 was not intended for. (The He 277 was confused with the He 177B four-engine variant of the He 177 in some postwar books on German WW2 aircraft and He 177B was stated to have been a cover designation for He 277, which we now know is false judging from RLM correspondences and Heinkel company documents, but that's another story.) Sharp (2016) notes that in 1939 Heinkel proposed a four-engine version of the He 177 as the He 179, which ended up not leaving the design phase.rcristi2271 wrote: ↑09 May 2004, 21:44Why not my friend, He 274 and He 277 were actually the same aircraft, the major difference that I see is that the He 274 was developed in occupied France. They shared even the engines: DB 603, although He 277 was to be equiped with Jumo 213.By the way, I cannot explain why, but the He 274 doesn't convince me as a strategic bomber. Silly, isn't it?
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Griehl, Manfred and Dressel, Joachim. Heinkel He 177-277-274, Airlife Publishing, Shrewsbury, England 1998. ISBN 1-85310-364-0. (Primary reference for article)
Dan Sharp, 2016. Luftwaffe: Secret Bombers of the Third Reich. Mortons.