Knight's Cross Holders Identification

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Post by Elwyn W » 05 Jul 2004, 04:49

1943 it said.

But Die Deutsche Wochenschau seems sooo sloppy. By the way, Genmj von Ziehlberg had only one left arm in the RT awarding ceremony! The only general that comes to mind is Hube but he only had a right arm!

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Post by Denis » 05 Jul 2004, 07:42

Hello guys
Who2 is very similar with Gerardes Moymann, I would say this is him.
Who3 is Paul Vincenz Jansky.
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Post by Phil » 05 Jul 2004, 10:57

Unk. RKT (72).jpg = Hugo Heinkel on the left and Martin Mitschke on the right.

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Post by K.Kocjancic » 05 Jul 2004, 11:09

Phil wrote:Unk. RKT (72).jpg = Hugo Heinkel on the left and Martin Mitschke on the right.
Thanks!

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Post by FANGIO » 05 Jul 2004, 15:01

Please, help with these unknown RKTs:
Who is the NCO RKT with Hain?
Who is the RKT on pic 102?
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Post by Elwyn W » 05 Jul 2004, 16:34

Good job, Denis. Sounds like the Wochenschau captions are just straight from the soundtrack!

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Post by Denis » 05 Jul 2004, 16:55

Hi
I would say that the unknown RKT with Hain is Kurt Bade. Please check as I am not sure.
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Post by FANGIO » 05 Jul 2004, 17:39

Denis wrote:Hi
I would say that the unknown RKT with Hain is Kurt Bade. Please check as I am not sure.
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I think you're right Denis: http://www.das-ritterkreuz.de/index_sea ... &wert1=140
Thanks for your help.
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Post by Dieter Zinke » 05 Jul 2004, 22:35

Phil wrote:Unk. RKT (72).jpg = Hugo Heinkel on the left and Martin Mitschke on the right.
Here is another pic with Mitschke

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Post by K.Kocjancic » 05 Jul 2004, 22:42

Thanks!

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Post by Dieter Zinke » 05 Jul 2004, 22:50

freiherr wrote:1943 it said.

But Die Deutsche Wochenschau seems sooo sloppy. By the way, Genmj von Ziehlberg had only one left arm in the RT awarding ceremony! The only general that comes to mind is Hube but he only had a right arm!

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Dear Freiherr,

there are more with one arm, for example Hermann Schulte-Heuthaus from PzGrenDiv "Brandenburg (also KC). Or Walter Hartmann (1 leg, 1 arm !!).
You know the fate of Heistermann von Ziehlberg ??

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Post by Elwyn W » 06 Jul 2004, 02:38

Thanks Oberstab and Denis,

Mystery solved. ObLt Paul Vincenz Jansky and Jäger Hans SieGLER of 49 Jg Rgt/ 28 Jg Div receiving RK's on 12.08.44. Commander was no other than Heistermann von Ziehlberg! Looked like von Ziehlberg had both arms. It was the regimental or battalion commander who didn't !

It also showed Siegler with his three PVA's. Perhaps Klemen or Daniel has access or a pic of Siegler?

Unfortunately, this was all that was available!

Oberstab, who was the the RKT next to Hermann Schulte-Heuthaus ?


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Post by Elwyn W » 06 Jul 2004, 04:56

Who were they?

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Post by Daniel L » 06 Jul 2004, 11:33

freiherr wrote:Perhaps Klemen or Daniel has access or a pic of Siegler?
No, unfortunately I don't have acces to all my photos at the time being. If someone has any good stills from the film I would be grateful if they could post some of them in the Panzervernichtungsabzeichenträger thread.

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Post by FANGIO » 06 Jul 2004, 13:42

Hi everybody!

No one knows who could be the Officer on pic 102?

Oberstab: who's the man behind Schulte-Heuthaus with the RK?

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FANGIO

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