Knight's Cross Holders Identification

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Post by FANGIO » 27 Jul 2004 12:58

Hi everybody!
I need to ID these RKTs please:

First pic: who's the General being awarded by Paulus? (source: http://www.privates-antiquariat.de)

Second pic: who's the Officer standing on the Ferdinand? (source: http://rtvmodeler.com/WWII.htm)

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FANGIO
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Post by VJK » 27 Jul 2004 13:08

Hi Fangio!

The General being decorated by Paulus is General der Infanterie Alexander Hartmann.

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VJK

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Post by Elwyn W » 28 Jul 2004 04:45

Long shot: officer on Ferdinand/Elephant, Erich Bärenfanger.

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Post by hec801 » 28 Jul 2004 08:56

Hey,

does anyone know where and when the last pic with Bärenfänger was made?

Thanks and Regards

Hannes

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Post by FANGIO » 28 Jul 2004 13:29

VJK wrote:Hi Fangio!

The General being decorated by Paulus is General der Infanterie Alexander Hartmann.

Best regards,

VJK


Hi VJK and thanks for your help.

Freiherr wrote:Long shot: officer on Ferdinand/Elephant, Erich Bärenfanger.

Cheers
Freiherr


Many thanks Freiherr.

hec801 wrote:does anyone know where and when the last pic with Bärenfänger was made?


Don`t know the exact place but could it be Italy or Kursk?

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Post by hec801 » 28 Jul 2004 13:58

Hey FANGIO,

I think it could not be Italy or Kursk because Bärenfänger was never there he was Btl.-leader on the Krim when getting the RK and than he was in Kaukasus and Kuban and later again Krim but since his time in Kuban area he had the Eichenlaub...

Furthermore he had the Krimschild and the person on the pic has only the RK, I think there is no Eichenlaub and no Krimschild...

If it is really Bärenfänger the could only made between august 1942(he got the RK) and winter 1942/1943(when he got the Krimschild)...

Also I think that the man on the pic is not very tall, Bärenfänger was eye-catching tall...

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Hannes

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Post by FANGIO » 28 Jul 2004 14:12

Hi Hannes!
I took a look at the site from where I got the picture and it says:
"East Front in photos - The von Kleist Boys"
Take a look: http://rtvmodeler.com/Frenteste/este2.htm
The pic is the last one (right bottom)
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Post by hec801 » 28 Jul 2004 15:08

From late 1942 to 1944 von Kleist was OB of Heeresgruppe A and there was also the 50. ID and its GR 123 where Bärenfänger was leader of III. Btl.!!!

So that could be right but I don't know if the Ferdinands were on the Front in late 1942? I think they first met the Sowjets in Sommer 1943 for the battle of Kursk...

but as I said that time Bärenfänger was leading his Btl. in Kuban area and on Krim...

It's like a mystery!

Regards

Hannes

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Post by John Toner » 29 Jul 2004 07:29

In an earlier post I said that identify 7 looked like Fritz Tegtmeier. I meant to say Siegfried Freytag. Sorry for being misleading.

John

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Post by -Koj- » 29 Jul 2004 20:57

Can anybody id this knights cross holder?
Thank you. :)
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Kein Ritterkreuztraeger!

Post by Edward L. Hsiao » 29 Jul 2004 22:09

Dear Sir,

According to das-ritterkreuz.de,he was Horst Wachenhausen. However he was a Kein Ritterkreuztraeger. I think it means that Wachenhausen won the KC unofficially.

Edward

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Post by FANGIO » 03 Aug 2004 13:45

This pic was posted by Freiherr and identified by John Toner as Friedrich Bachmeier but looking at http://www.das-ritterkreuz.de I could only find a Josef Bachmeier from the Waffen-SS.
Could anyone give me the rank, date and unit when Friedrich Bachmeier won the RK please?

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FANGIO
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Post by John Toner » 03 Aug 2004 15:25

Fangio

I mis-spelled the name. It should be:

Bachmaier, Friedrich Hptm. d.R., Kdr. II./Geb.Jäg.Rgt. 100

John

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Post by FANGIO » 03 Aug 2004 16:19

John Toner wrote:Fangio

I mis-spelled the name. It should be:

Bachmaier, Friedrich Hptm. d.R., Kdr. II./Geb.Jäg.Rgt. 100

John


Thank you John, now I could find him at http://www.das-ritterkreuz.de

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FANGIO

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Post by Elwyn W » 04 Aug 2004 13:21

thanks John. It does look like Freytag.

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Freiherr

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