Knight's Cross Holders Identification

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Daniel L
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#796

Post by Daniel L » 31 Oct 2004, 13:54

Hi Hardigan, I really don't think it's Schümers.

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Post by Mark V. » 31 Oct 2004, 14:53

Yes, Giesecke and Schümers plus Hans Traupe and probably Günther Butte (both with DKiGs).
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Post by Daniel L » 31 Oct 2004, 15:19

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Looking at this photo I get somewhat confused. Compare the length of the ribbon for example.

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Post by Mark V. » 31 Oct 2004, 16:56

Daniel, rather try comparing their faces - a definite match :) .
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Post by Hardigan » 31 Oct 2004, 17:24

Daniel , take a look at their uniforms and places of awards , exactly the same .

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Post by Daniel L » 31 Oct 2004, 17:25

Yes, I withdraw my statements.

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Post by Elwyn W » 31 Oct 2004, 17:44

Hi John,
The RKT on the extreme right of your photo is supposed to be Gerhard Friedrich. But then then a cropped pic of the same photo was all I had.

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Post by Elwyn W » 31 Oct 2004, 18:10

In John's pic, the person on the extreme left looks like Mj Hans Georg Herzog, Kmdr, II/PzRGt14. He was RKT'ed on 06.04.44. Second from left was Karl Decker, Kmdr 5 Pz from 07.09.43 to 16.10.44.

Friedrich got his RK on 06.04.43 but DKiG on 10.01.44.

This would put the pic having been taken between April 44 to Oct 44. The background clearly was not summer so that would narrow down the number of possible RKTs as candidate for the yet unnamed man -- looks like he was just awarded the RK.

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Post by Elwyn W » 31 Oct 2004, 19:21

Stumped!

Friedrich got DKiG on 10.01.44.

There were these officers who got RK then up to 16.10.44 which was when Decker left:

Lt Erich Abraham (posthumous)
Lt Prosper Graf zu Castell Castell (not him)
Mj Hans Georg Herzog
Obst Heinrich Steinwachs (not him)
Lt Josef Jenatschek (not him)
Lt August Kiene ??????
Obst Rolf Lippert (not him)
Hptm Edzard v Reden (not him)
ObLt Fritz Eschmann ??????
ObstLt i.G. Anton Detlev v Plato (not him)
Hptm Karl Seckler (posthumous)
Mj Friedrich Karl Nökel (not him)
Hptm Alfred Jedtke (not him)


Anyone know what these two looked like?

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#805

Post by John Toner » 31 Oct 2004, 21:10

Are there any better photos of Gerhard Friedrich?

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Post by FANGIO » 31 Oct 2004, 21:25

Hardigan wrote:Hello Fangio

The KC-recipients are Otto Giesecke and Karl Schümers of Polizei-div

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Thank you very much for the IDs Hardigan.

Edit: Also thanks to Mark for identifying the DKiG recipients.

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#807

Post by FANGIO » 01 Nov 2004, 21:29

Pic posted in wehrmacht-awards forum but no name was given. Who is he?
The pic was posted by Larry L (Association Member)
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Post by hec801 » 04 Nov 2004, 19:34

Hallo,

I found the pic in the missing list of International Red Cross!

I Think that this on the photo is a RKT but the name is not to find! So this is a wrong name for a RKT photo!

Does anyone know who he is!?

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Post by John Toner » 05 Nov 2004, 12:14

Dear Hannes

If Kertsch is where the RKT died, then there are the following possibilities.

Kociok, Josef
Ofw., Flugzeugfhr. i. d. 10. (N.J.)Z.G. 1
RK 31.07.43
+ 26.9.43 bei Kertsch (Rußland) nach Zusammenstoß mit einem sowjet. Flugzeug tödl. verungluckt als Flugzeugfhr. im N.J.G. 200; nachträglich zum Lt. befördert

Künkel, Christian
Lt., Flugzeugfhr. i. d. 8./S.G. 3
RK 26.03.44
+ 27.1.44 bei Kertsch (Rußland); nachträglich zum Oblt. befördert

Sattler, Hans-Karl
Oblt., Flugzeugfhr. i. d. 8./S.G. 77
RK 16.02.42
+ 13.1.43 bei Kertsch (Rußland) als Staffelkpt.

Stegmann, Karl
Uffz., Hilfsbeobachter i. d. 7./Art.Rgt. 198
RK 20.01.44
+ 6.11.43 auf Halbinsel Kertsch (Rußland); nachträglich zum Wachtm. befördert

Waldhauser, Johann
Oblt., Staffelkpt. 9./S.G. 77
RK 24.01.42
+ 13.5.42 bei Kertsch (Rußland)

I hope this helps.

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Post by Daniel L » 06 Nov 2004, 02:42

Doesn't look like Luftwaffe but Heer to me. I guess that's a grey panzer wraper he is wearing. Stegmann could be the one.

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