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Post by stril » 26 Apr 2004 21:37

Hello Xavier.
It would be nice if you could coment the binoculars in this tread, that belong to my father, any info welcomed.
viewtopic.php?t=47346
Value if possible(in a PM ?), not that they are for sale,.
Just curious, both me and my father.
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Post by Xavier » 27 Apr 2004 17:19

@ Stril

please check your private forum mail

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Post by Xavier » 15 Oct 2004 18:32

Ave Forum:

As you read this, the Dienstglas database is being updated with some 120+ new numbers, now I am concentrating on the more unusual models (7x50's, 8x60's 10x50's marine versions etc etc.. [both porro and roof])

regarding the standar issue 6x30's I will add now only scarce variations/makers and / or numbers that are out of the average.

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Post by anythingww2 » 17 Oct 2004 18:11

Hi X
Heres mine
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Post by Xavier » 02 Feb 2005 16:16

database has been extensively updated, new numbers added. (about 50 or more)
I am looking now for a set of late war hinged (ocular) covers for some 7x50 (8x60 the same) blc heavy typ (also known as "U-boat binos")

any leads, please pm or email me , I will be more than grateful

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Post by AvB » 03 Feb 2005 22:59

Xavier wrote:database has been extensively updated, new numbers added. (about 50 or more)
I am looking now for a set of late war hinged (ocular) covers for some 7x50 (8x60 the same) blc heavy typ (also known as "U-boat binos")

any leads, please pm or email me , I will be more than grateful

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Hi Xavier.

When you see something like M H/6400 is this a Kriegsmarine one or still Heer?
Because H/6400 is the Heeres Strich grade system which wasn't used by the KM. It stretches from 0 to 6400 'Strich' for more accuracy,

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Post by Xavier » 03 Feb 2005 23:36

it would be a piece, most likely, issued to Coastal Marine artillerie, hence the M designation on a piece with range finder intended for land targets (as the range is useless at sea, because is very difficult to proportionate against the emptiness of the sea..

any other ideas are welcome!

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Post by Xavier » 11 Feb 2005 19:34

just added a visual reference devoted exclusively to marine use binoculars:

http://community.webshots.com/album/266520410eOmMDS

and check this useful page about restoring flak binoculars (use at your own risk..those things are complicated!!)
http://www.cloudynights.com/breviews/flakfernrohr.htm

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Post by Cid250 » 11 Mar 2005 05:23

Well is possible to know, how much frequent was the reticle in the field binocs?.

Was common, in squad leader binocs?, Platoon leader binocs?, Company leader binocs?.

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Post by Xavier » 11 Mar 2005 18:25

The reticle was present in all the binocs that carried the notation h/6400 variations were due to manufacturing differences between makers, I have discoverend no pattern in the issue of reticle ones so far


eindhoven wrote:

This style was more often carried by MG teams, NCOs, or Platoon Leaders in the infantry or infantry support role. The large binos were worn by Panzer crews with the aforementioned different milled reticle. I have a pair of 6X30s myself and they are a great tool for calculating distances out to 1000 meters which is the standard range of engagement for infantry. Really 500 meters or less is best. You can also adjust fire with binos like this one when calling for artillery.


from: viewtopic.php?t=52156&highlight=

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Post by MAX_theHitMan » 11 Mar 2005 21:46

Well, personally I am not into binocular collecting, but I must say...THat is a most impressive list you got.
Congratulations on that fine collection. Very cool 8)


keep up the great job

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Post by Xavier » 07 Jun 2005 16:16

nice overall history of the Zeiss company:

http://www.smecc.org/ziess.htm

by the way, I am baaack!!

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Post by Xavier » 11 Jul 2005 20:22

thanks for the comment Max,

To the forum: database has been extensively updated, (july 11, 2005), about 120 new numbers added.
I am looking now for a set of late war hinged (ocular) covers for some 7x50 (8x60 the same) blc heavy typ (also known as "U-boat binos")

any leads, please pm or email me , I will be more than grateful

best regards

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Good Day to you Xavier,

Post by Georgiano » 30 Aug 2005 13:38

I have admired your extensive database of WWII binoculars, and I hope that you can help me with information on a piece of binoculars I have found in my attic, binoculars which belonged to me grandfather, who was an army planes engineer during the war, here in Romania; unfortunately, I do not know how they came in his possession in the first place, so I cannot tell you more of their history.
They are black, painted with a “rough texture” paint, and on the right handle are stamped the following:

Dienstglas
6x30
222261
ddx ∆

On the left handle is not stamped anything. Also inside the right lens there is a grid very similar to the one described by K-9 in his post from 9 December 2003, except the fact that only the number 20 can be seen on the grid. Please, I would really appreciate it if you can tell me something about them, like for instance: what “ddx” stands for? What does it mean the “6x30” marking, it represents the optimum distance at which the binoculars can display relevant images? What does the triangle symbol represents? What is the grid for, it is for determining the distance to the observed object, or for what? And how exactly do you use it, or at least can you give me some references on this matter?
I thank you for any information you can spare, and if the data I displayed here can be of any help for your database, I’m glad for it. And also if you need some pictures of it, just ask, and I will post them in due time.

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Post by Georgiano » 30 Aug 2005 14:23

I forgot to mention that the binoculars also have a leather strip for wearing them around the neck, and a rubber cap intended for covering the smaller lenses, which is being pined down on the leather strip. Inside the rubber cap there are engraved (probably with a sharp object or with a small blade) the following numbers: 408 511; I do not know their meaning, but it could be some regsitration number or something similar. Also on one side of the rubber cap it is engraved (but it is very faint, very hard to read) the same number from the right handle of the binoculars: 222261.

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