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brown shirts=SA member

Post by panzertruppe2001 » 17 Sep 2004 19:23

What were really the brown shirts? Was it a nickname for the SA members or was it a nickname for a NSDAP member?

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Post by Helly Angel » 18 Sep 2004 03:09

Sorry I can´t explain this in english... :oops:

Después de la batalla de Coburgo en octubre de 1922, Hitler comprendió la necesidad de uniformar a las tropas, primero para dar "mistica de cuerpo" a los suyos y segundo para que se identificaran unos a otros y poder apalear al que no estuviera uniformado.

Los primeros Camisas Pardas fueron las SA que aprovecharon la compra de un lote de camisas que iban para la Legión Francesa en Africa y se esa venta se quedo fría, iban sin pantalones por cierto. Con el tiempo los funcionarios regulares del Partido y las filiales de la SA (NSKK, etc) empezaron a usar el uniforme pero con pantalones oscuros. Un funcionario del NSDAP usaba el mismo uniforme pardo pero con distintos galones e insignias de grado. La Camisa parda se convirtió en un simbolo de orgullo y honor y en las demas organizaciones como la HJ se usaba con pantalon corto negro. Creo que unicamente en la BDM y las Uniones Profesionales no se usaba la Camisa Parda.

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Post by R.M. Schultz » 18 Sep 2004 05:57

panzertruppe2001 wrote:What were really the brown shirts? Was it a nickname for the SA members or was it a nickname for a NSDAP member?


The SA uniform was brown, while the party uniform was more yellow, thus high-ranking party members were often derided as "golden pheasants."

The original SA uniforms, from about 1923, were surplus colonial uniforms, and more of a khaki color and the tradition of brown shirts continued after the re-founding of the party in 1926.

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Post by Helly Angel » 18 Sep 2004 06:21

Thats is correct but the color of the Party were not so yellow... it was between yellow and browm but more light than the SA shirt.

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Post by panzertruppe2001 » 18 Sep 2004 18:24

Thanks everybody

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Post by Chris Dale » 05 Jan 2006 05:17

R.M. Schultz wrote:The original SA uniforms, from about 1923, were surplus colonial uniforms, and more of a khaki color and the tradition of brown shirts continued after the re-founding of the party in 1926.


I've heard this said a lot, yet the cut of early SA uniforms does not seem to be the same as Schutztruppe uniforms (from photos I've seen- maybe somebody else has photos other photos with Schutztruppe style uniforms?). Or perhaps reams of uncut khaki cloth originally intended for the colonies was used? Does anyone know?
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Post by stcamp » 05 Jan 2006 14:13

For a brief time they wore white shirts. :) I believe it was during the period when the SA was a banned orginization.

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Post by R.M. Schultz » 05 Jan 2006 21:36

panzertruppe2001 wrote:What were really the brown shirts? Was it a nickname for the SA members or was it a nickname for a NSDAP member?


As an interesting side note, when massive numbers of ex-Communists began to swell the SA ranks in the early 1930’s these recruits were known as “Beefsteak Nazis” because they were “brown on the outside, red on the inside.”

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Post by ihoyos » 06 Jan 2006 18:20

The Brown House was named for that or really was brown?

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Post by R.M. Schultz » 06 Jan 2006 18:54

ihoyos wrote:The Brown House was named for that or really was brown?


1928 Fritz Thyssen had bought the Barlow Palace on Briennerstrasse, in Munich, which Hitler converted into the Brown House, the headquarters of the Nazi party. The money came from a Thyssen overseas institution, the Bank voor Handel en Scheepvarrt in Rotterdam. The mansion had preiously served as the Italian embassy in Bavaria, when Bavaria had been an independent state. In point of fact the “Brown House” was white.

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Post by Helly Angel » 08 Jan 2006 19:07

The Braunes Haus was not white.

Outside:

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In this photo in b/w you can see the diference of colors between the bordes (in white) from the windows and the walls.

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Inside:

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The Barlow Palace, 45 from the Brienerstrasse was bought by Hitler for 1.500.000 german marks, collected between all the mermbers of the NSDAP. Thyssen just made a loan for 300.000 marks and he received his paid after (just a little part)

The costs of reparations after the sale were 1.000.000 marks more.


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