The Sino-Japanese War(Campaigns in detail)

Discussions on all aspects of China, from the beginning of the First Sino-Japanese War till the end of the Chinese Civil War. Hosted by YC Chen.
User avatar
Akira Takizawa
Member
Posts: 2779
Joined: 26 Feb 2006 17:37
Location: Japan

Re: Thanks

Post by Akira Takizawa » 14 Apr 2006 03:05

asiaticus wrote:BTW what was the source(s) of this oob?


"一億人の昭和史 日中戦争3" 毎日新聞社

Taki

User avatar
asiaticus
Member
Posts: 923
Joined: 03 Mar 2004 04:53
Location: Lake Elsinore CA USA

re: Thanks

Post by asiaticus » 14 Apr 2006 18:18

Ok thanks.

"一億人の昭和史 日中戦争3" 毎日新聞社


My Alta Vista translator makes that:

"The Showa history Japanese-Chinese war 3 100000000" the Mainichi Newspapers

Hmm. Dont think that 3 100000000 is quite right, but the rest makes sense. :^)

User avatar
Akira Takizawa
Member
Posts: 2779
Joined: 26 Feb 2006 17:37
Location: Japan

Re: re: Thanks

Post by Akira Takizawa » 15 Apr 2006 09:07

asiaticus wrote:Ok thanks.

"一億人の昭和史 日中戦争3" 毎日新聞社


My Alta Vista translator makes that:

"The Showa history Japanese-Chinese war 3 100000000" the Mainichi Newspapers

Hmm. Dont think that 3 100000000 is quite right, but the rest makes sense. :^)


It is "The Showa histroy of one hundred million (Japanese) people, Sino-Japanese War Vol. 3".

"一億" (one hundred million) means Japanese people in Japan, because Japanese population is about one hundred million. It was often said in wartime slogans like "一億玉砕", "一億特攻".

Taki

User avatar
asiaticus
Member
Posts: 923
Joined: 03 Mar 2004 04:53
Location: Lake Elsinore CA USA

Thanks for the clarification

Post by asiaticus » 15 Apr 2006 17:59

Thanks for the clarification Taki.

Apparently Alta Vista has a long way to go, if they are going to get their Japanese translator up to par. :^(

User avatar
tigre
Member
Posts: 7548
Joined: 20 Mar 2005 11:48
Location: Argentina

Nanchang 1939.

Post by tigre » 21 Apr 2006 04:16

Hello folks, another article written at that time.

The only military effort of any importance made by the Japanese army since the occupation of Canton and Hankow last October, was the capture of Nanchang, capital of Kiangsi Province, which for months had been a major Central China air base.

In July 1938, the Japanese concentrated a strong force for operations against Nanchang by occupying Kiukiang, Yangtze River port about eighty miles north of that strategic city. However, due to strong (Chinese resistanCe and unfavorable weather conditions, the advance was stalled at a half-way point and virtually no progress was made last winter. A swift and well prepared drive, protected by air planes and tanks, was launched on 22 March up the west bank of the Kan River and in seven days the offensive banged its way into Nanchang.

A city of 500,000 inhabitants, Nanchang was “a key point on the Chekiang-Hunan railway, China’s last line of supply from the east coast. The loss of this key city will be of no small disadvantage to the Chinese armies. Nanchang is the west terminus of the railroad from Hanchow,-southwest of Shanghai—running through 600 miles of belt country which no Japanese force has penetrated and from which the Chinese government had been drawing food supplies.

Nanchang also gives the Japanese another base for a westerly drive against Changsha, the coveted capital of Hunan Province. This offensive is now in progress and undoubtedly will be vigorously pushed, because with the capture of Changsha, rail communication with the southern province of Kwangsi will be completely disrupted.

Japanes’e occupation of Nanchang will also require rerouting of Chinese guerrilla supply lines and trade routes, since that city has been a focal point for distribution of supplies to the numerous guerrillas which were operating in the triangle Shanghai-Hankow-Nanchang as well as for guerrillas south of the Yangtze that have been obstructing movements of Japanese transports.

Sinae tbe fall of Hankow and Canton last October, the Chinese have placed greater emphasis on guerrilla activities.
It is reported that at the present time nearly one million men, constituting approximately one-third of China’s regular troops, are employed in guerrilla operations. Their mission is not only to cause damage to the enemy, but also to frustrate Japanese attempts to set up puppet regimes and secure Chinese food supplies. Similarly, they seek to create such disturbances so as to make it practically impossible far the Japanese to exploit China’s wealth or agricultural possibilities.

They operate under the “Guerrilla Section” of the National Military Council of which Generalissimo Chiang Kai-shek is chairman.
Guerrillas have been active recently in Hunan Province where they penetrated the Japanese defenses of Kaifeng for the second time, but were compelled th withdraw after a Japanese counterattack. They have also been active in the vicinity of Suchow, the junction of the Tientsin-Pukow and Lunghai railways, and have caused traffic interruptions.

According to “Nichi Nichi,” Japan will seek the active assistance of Germany and Italy in an effort to, force other Occidental Powers to stop their assistance to China. The JaPanese cabinet, it is reported, has finally come to the conclusion that Japan’s “overwhelming victories’ are insufficient to end the conflict because of the money and supplies that are being furnished China by outside powers. The main objective of Japan’s foreign policy is, therefore, to prevent foreign assistance from reaching China in really dangerous dimensions.

Up to this time the Japanese war machine has been consistently victorious; the situation at present really is a victorious stalemate in which the victors have been prevented from cashing in on their gains. The most recent events have shown that the Japanese have obviously reached the outward brim of the area in which their mechanical superiority made progress relatively easy. They can no longer use warships in the treacherous rapids of the upper Yangtze, nor can mechanized units advance in the mountains of the West and southwest. After the capture of Changsha, the war will enters a stage in which no new spectacular victories can be expected.

Japan’s goal today is threefold:

1. To defend the occupied area from attacks beyond the outward brim.
2. To exterminate guerrillas.
3. To organize a puppet government capable both of inspiring popular confidence and of initiating an extensive program of rehabilitation.

Cheers. Tigre.
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

User avatar
asiaticus
Member
Posts: 923
Joined: 03 Mar 2004 04:53
Location: Lake Elsinore CA USA

Nanchang article source?

Post by asiaticus » 21 Apr 2006 04:26

Was this article also from Military News Around the World?

User avatar
tigre
Member
Posts: 7548
Joined: 20 Mar 2005 11:48
Location: Argentina

Nanchang source.

Post by tigre » 21 Apr 2006 18:21

Hello asiaticus, yes from Military News Around the World, jun 1939. Cheers. Tigre.

User avatar
asiaticus
Member
Posts: 923
Joined: 03 Mar 2004 04:53
Location: Lake Elsinore CA USA

Nanchang Campaign oobs

Post by asiaticus » 23 Apr 2006 19:12

Here is what I have so far on the oob for the two sides for the campaign around Nanchang.

Nanchang Campaign (Mid Feb. - Early May 1939)


Japan

11th Army - Gen. Yasuji Okamura [1,2]
- 6th Division - Lt. Gen. Shiro Inaba [4]
--9th Infantry Brigade
---11th Infantry Regiment
---41st Infantry Regiment
--21st Infantry Brigade
---21st Infantry Regiment
---42nd Infantry Regiment
--5th Mountain Artillery Regiment
--5th Cavalry Regiment
--5th Engineer Regiment
--5th Transport Regiment
- 101st Divison - Lt. Gen Masatoshi Saito [4]
--101st Infantry Brigade
---101st Infantry Regiment
---149th Infantry Regiment
--102nd Infantry Brigade
---103rd Infantry Regiment
---157th Infantry Regiment
--101st Field Artillery Regiment
--101st Cavalry Regiment
--101st Engineer Regiment
--101st Transport Regiment
- 106th Division * - Lt. Gen. Atsuo Matsuura [4]
--111th Infantry Brigade
---113th Infantry Regiment
---147th Infantry Regiment
--136th Infantry Brigade
---125th Infantry Regiment
---145th Infantry Regiment
--106th Field Artillery Regiment
--106th Cavalry Regiment
--106th Engineer Regiment
--106th Transport Regiment
- 120th Cavalry Regiment - Seinji Hasekawa[1]
- 22nd Artillery Regt. - Houkichi Nakahira[1]
- 6th Field Heavy Artillery Brigade HQ - Major Gen. Sumita[3]
--13th Field Heavy Artillery Regiment[15cm Howitzers] Lt. Col. Okoshi[3]
--14th Field Heavy Artillery Regiment [15cm Howitzers] Lt. Col. Maruyama[3]
--10th Field Heavy Artillery Regiment[15cm Howitzers] Lt. Col. Nagaya[3]
--15th Independent Field Heavy Artillery Regiment [10cm Cannons] Col. Horikawa[3]
-101st Field Artillery Regiment [75mm Field Guns ] Lt. Col. Yamada[3]
-3rd Independent Mountain Gun Regiment [75mm Mountain Guns] Lt. Col. Morikawa[3]
-106th Field Artillery Regiment [75mm Field Guns ] Lt. Col. Uga[3]
-2nd Battalion/2nd Independent Mountain Gun Regiment [75mm Mountain Guns ] Major Matsumoto[3]

Naval:
Yosuko(Yangtze) Force?
- over 30 ships and 50 motor boats [1]
- one battalion of Marines [1]

Naval Airforce: ?

Army Airforce:
3rd Flight Group ?


Notes:
9th Division in Yueh-Linhsiang area. [1]
3rd, 13th, 116th Divisions North of Yangtze River vs Chinese 5th War Area forces. [1]
* Only a portion of the 106th Division took part. [1]


China

9th War Area - Chen Cheng [1]
- 19th Army Group - Lo Cho-ying
-- 79th Corps - Hsia Chu-chung
--- 118th Division - Wang Ling-yun
--- 76th Division - Wang Ling-yun
--- 98th Division - Wang Chia-pen
-- 49th Corps - Liu Tuo-chuan
--- 105th Division - Wang Tieh-han
--- 9th Res. Division - Chang Yen-chuan
-- 70th Corps - Li Chueh
--- 19th Division - Li Chueh(concurrent)
--- 107th Division - Tuan Heng
-- 32nd Corps - Sung Ken-tang
--- 139th Division - Li Chao-ying
--- 141st Division - Tang Yung-liang
--- 142nd Division - Fu Li-ping
-- 5th Res Division - Tseng Chia-chu
-- Poyang Lake Garrison - Tseng Chia-chu
--- 3 Regts of Kiangsi Peace Preservation Force
-- Lu Shan Guerilla Command - Yang Yu-chen
--- 2 Peace Preservation Regts
- 74th Corps - Yu Chi-shih
-- 51st Division - Wang Yao-wu
-- 58th Division - Feng Sheng-fa
-- 60th Division - Chen Pei
- Hunan - Hupei - Kiangsi Border Area Guerrilla Command - Fan Sung-pu
-- 8th Corps - Li Yu-tang
--- 3rd Division - Chao Hsi-tien
--- 197th Division - Ting Ping-chuan
-- 73rd Corps - Peng Wei-jen
--- 15th Division - Wang Chih-pin
--- 77th Division - Liu Chu-ming
--128th Division - Wang Ching-tsai
-- 1st Guerilla Command - Kung Ho-chung
--- 4 columns
- 1st Army Group - Lung Yun, Dep. Cdr. - Lu Han
-- 58th Corps - Sun Tu
--- New10th Division - Liiu Cheng-fu
--- 183rd Division - Yang Hung-kuang
-- 3th Corps - Chang Chung
--- 184th Divison - Chang Chung (concurrent)
--- New 12th Division - Kung Hsun-pi
-- 60th Corps - An En-pu
--- 182nd Divison - An En-pu (concurrent)
--- New 11th Division - Kung Hsun-pi
- 30th Army Group - Wang Ling-chi
-- 78th Corps - Hsia Shou-hsun
--- New 13th Division - Liu Cheng-fu
--- One Brigade of New 16th Division
-- 72nd Corps - Han Hsien-pu
--- New 14th Division
--- New 15th Division

From 3rd War Area [1]

7 Divisions of 32nd Army Group were mentioned in the text [1] as being in the counter attack to recapture Nanchang:

32nd Army Group - Shangkuan Yu-hsiang
- 29th Corps - Chen An-Pao
-- 26th Division - Liu Yu-ching
-- (which other divisions?)

-25th Corps - Wang Ching-chiu
-- (which divisions?)

32nd Army Group divisions mentioned:
- Attacking from area between Kan and Fu River:
-- 16th Division - ?
-- 10th Reserve Division - ?
- Attacking from Fu River between Wu-yang-tu and Hsieh-fu-shih:
-- 79th Division - ?
-- 5th Reserve Division - ?
- In reserve across the Fu River, later made final attack on Nanchang:
-- 67th Division - Mo Yu-shuo

Early reinforcement from 3rd War area , part of 32nd Army Group?
-- 102nd Division - ?


Notes:
7 Divisions from 32nd Army Group / 3rd War Area were committed during the offensive to recapture Nanchang in April 1939. 16th, 79th, 10th Reserve, and 5th Reseve Divisions are mentioned as being with that Army Group. Also a 102nd Division also came from 3rd War Area early in the campaign but may or may not have been from 32nd Army Group, the text is doesn’t make this clear. The 29th Corps is mentioned in the text along with 26th Divison in the final attack on Nanchang. Addtionally a 25th Corps, (commander Wang Ching-chiu) and a separate 67th Division is listed as being under the 32nd Army Group in another OOB for the Chinese from after the Battle of Wuhan to March 1940. [1]


Sources:
[1] Hsu Long-hsuen and Chang Ming-kai, History of The Sino-Japanese War (1937-1945) 2nd Ed. ,1971. Translated by Wen Ha-hsiung , Chung Wu Publishing; 33, 140th Lane, Tung-hwa Street, Taipei, Taiwan Republic of China.

[2] IJA in China orbat, 1937 to 1945

http://www.china-defense.com/forum/inde ... topic=2726
http://www.china-defense.com/forum/show ... php?t=1168

January 31, 1939 ,11th Army governs 3, 6, 9, 13, 16, 101, 106 divisions.

[3] Artillery force Xiushui River crossing

http://www3.plala.or.jp/takihome/artillery_history.html

[4] Generals from Japan (WWII)

http://www.generals.dk/nation/Japan/S.html

User avatar
asiaticus
Member
Posts: 923
Joined: 03 Mar 2004 04:53
Location: Lake Elsinore CA USA

Map of the Japanese offensive to take Nanchang

Post by asiaticus » 23 Apr 2006 19:40

Map of the Japanese offensive to take Nanchang from Hsu Long-hsuen and Chang Ming-kai, History of The Sino-Japanese War (1937-1945)
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

User avatar
asiaticus
Member
Posts: 923
Joined: 03 Mar 2004 04:53
Location: Lake Elsinore CA USA

Map of Chinese counteroffensive to retake Nanchang

Post by asiaticus » 23 Apr 2006 19:42

Chinese counter offensive to retake Nanchang from Hsu Long-hsuen and Chang Ming-kai, History of The Sino-Japanese War (1937-1945)
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

User avatar
tigre
Member
Posts: 7548
Joined: 20 Mar 2005 11:48
Location: Argentina

Nanchang 1939

Post by tigre » 23 Apr 2006 20:44

Thank you asiaticus for sharing those detailed maps about Nanchang operations. Cheers. Tigre.

User avatar
Akira Takizawa
Member
Posts: 2779
Joined: 26 Feb 2006 17:37
Location: Japan

Japanese OOB of Nanchang

Post by Akira Takizawa » 24 Apr 2006 08:18

Naval:
T Operation Fleet - Rear Admiral Keijiro Goga
 Main unit - 1st Base Force, Asuka
 Advanced unit - Hira, Futami
 Rear Guard - Kotaka, 2nd & 3rd Gunboat Units
 Advanced Guard - 1st Minesweeper Unit and other small crafts
 Air Unit - River Plane Unit of 1st Base Force, 12th Air Unit
 Kure 5th SNLF
 4th Gunboat Unit

Army Airforce:
3rd Flight Group - Major Gen. Sugawara
 Independent 17th Flying Squadron
 77th, 45th, 75th Flying Sentai

Don't forget tank units. See below link.

http://www3.plala.or.jp/takihome/history.htm

Taki

User avatar
tigre
Member
Posts: 7548
Joined: 20 Mar 2005 11:48
Location: Argentina

Japanese OOB of Nanchang - Naval

Post by tigre » 24 Apr 2006 09:55

Many thanks Taki. Cheers. Tigre.

User avatar
asiaticus
Member
Posts: 923
Joined: 03 Mar 2004 04:53
Location: Lake Elsinore CA USA

about Nanchang oob

Post by asiaticus » 24 Apr 2006 17:48

Taki

Thanks for the naval and airforce info and the heads up on the tanks.

Was wondering where the 1st Base Force was located. I am guessing Kiukiang.
Also was the Asuka a ship, perhaps a merchantman turned seaplane tender for the
River Plane Unit of 1st Base Force?

Was wondering if the Ishii Tank Unit had other supporting units attached to it? I would guess they might be with the
106th Divison given the sweep south of Nanchang that the 106th is shown doing on the map above.

User avatar
asiaticus
Member
Posts: 923
Joined: 03 Mar 2004 04:53
Location: Lake Elsinore CA USA

re: Asuka

Post by asiaticus » 26 Apr 2006 17:55

Seems Asuka was built in 1914 as Chinese gunboat Yung Chien. Sunk at Shanghai 1937 by Japanese, raised and commissioned as Asuka.

from:
http://www.j-aircraft.org/smf/index.php?topic=861.0

Return to “China at War 1895-1949”