KC-Holders - group pic

Balsi · Post by **Balsi** » 07 Jan 2005 19:30

Can anyone tell me which date and which KC-Holders are seen there?

Thanks a lot...

Dieter Zinke · Post by **Dieter Zinke** » 07 Jan 2005 20:35

Wow!!
A super-banquet for eagle-eye Daniel and a great challenge for our best researchers! The hunt is opened. Horrido!!
Ich bin gespannt wie ein Flitzebogen!
Dieter

Mark Costa · Post by **Mark Costa** » 07 Jan 2005 21:06

My guess would be that it was taken at the Berghof for an Oak leaves presentation. My reasons are:

The floor resembles tiles that were similiar to those at the Berghof and the curtain in the background resembles the one used by Hitler's color photogrpaher Walter Frent when he took portrait photos of the KC recipients. As far as a date is concerned -- thats for someone else to discover.

MArk Costa

herbert · Post by **herbert** » 07 Jan 2005 21:17

Hallo

Das Foto zeigt in der ersten Reihe vorne : Langesee, Schulze, E.Löffler, Möws, H. Becker und Spindler
in der mittleren Reihe Kiesgen, Pestke, ? , Sachsenheimer, Klappich, Hümmerich, Proske, Kylling-Schmidt und v.Hirschfeld
in der letzten Reihe stehen Hilt, Grünert und Hilgemann

Gruß
Herbert

Balsi · Post by **Balsi** » 07 Jan 2005 21:19

great.. grossartig Herbert.. Danke

Marcus · Post by **Marcus** » 07 Jan 2005 21:20

Please write in English.

/Marcus

Stauffenberg II · Post by **Stauffenberg II** » 08 Jan 2005 08:50

Hi!

Just want to tell that the pic looks very strange to me. All guys are looking to the side (some to the right, some to the left) and some in "empty" directions. Crazy arrangement.

I have to admit my first guess was a photomontage.

Daniel L · Post by **Daniel L** » 08 Jan 2005 11:02

I have seen another photo from the same session where they are lined up more properly so this is probably a photo taken when they were preparing their positions for the shot.

Best regards/ Daniel

herbert · Post by **herbert** » 08 Jan 2005 11:08

Hi Stauffenberg,

it is not Photomomtage, sees photo. Correction: middle row 2.von left? , 3. is Pestke.

Gruß
Herbert

herbert · Post by **herbert** » 08 Jan 2005 11:13

Hallo

Correction is for the first photo

Gruß

Elwyn W · Post by **Elwyn W** » 08 Jan 2005 18:13

Great work, Herbert, I am very impressed.

First of all, would all of these be related?
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... hsenheimer
http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/ ... p?p=474410

a visit to the Reichsjugendführung, simply because of so many overlaps?

The owner of the pic in the second thread said the picture was released on 04.11.42. Taking all of Herbert's suggestion, Gerhard Möws was the last awarded the RK: 01.11.42 of thise present in Pic 1 .......maybe that's why he was sitting in the middle?

(1) Does anyone have a better pic of Möws that he could share?
(2) Does anyone have any pic of Friedrich Wilhelm Proske that he could share?
(3) The only unidentified person in the first pic was now standing in the following order in the second pic: Klappich, A, B, Kylling-Schmidt. Was he A or B?
(4) Herbert, which Schulze were you referring to? The two high ranking ones were Werner and Paul. It looked more like Paul but Paul belonged to the PzTr and he had a InfStAbz. Werner on the other hand had a moustache and was fatter than that.

Cheers
Freiherr

FANGIO · Post by **FANGIO** » 11 Jan 2005 21:42

Absolutely great picture!!!
Nobody can ID them? I'm awful identifying RKTs.
Regards,

FANGIO

Elwyn W · Post by **Elwyn W** » 21 May 2006 03:48

I am re-posting Herbert's picture:

Following his impressive identification, we have:

1=Karl Langesee
2=Otto Schulze
3=Erich Loeffler
4=Gerhard Moews
5=Hans Becker
6=Wilhelm Spindler
7=Peter Kiesgen
8=Hans Gottard Pestke
9=?
10=Max Sachsenheimer
11=Guenther Klappich
12=Wilhelm Huemmerich
13=Friedrich Wilhelm Proske
14=Ekkehard Kyllung-Schmidt
15=Harald von Hirschfeld
16=Guenther Hilt
17=Richard Gruenert
18=Klaus Hilgemann

The caption from the pic from Ullstein said it was propaganda on 27 Infanterie RKT, dated most likely to before the end of 1942. Can anyone identify the remaining few?

Cheers
Freiherr

odellweeks · Post by **odellweeks** » 28 May 2006 16:14

Your question was moved to

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 670#904670

D.Z.

Elwyn W · Post by **Elwyn W** » 11 Mar 2007 19:32

Now that a better pic of "bigpic1" has come in on ebay:

I think the third from left is Pestke and not the second from left. So keeping "8" for Pestke, we have

Anyone knows who "9" was? Herbert where are you?

In the Goebbels pic, I now think between Sachsenheimer and Proske in the front is Spindler, partly confirmed by the positioning of his awards.

Cheers
Freiherr

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