Kalatch-na-Donu Garrison 23 November 1942 - Question

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Kalatch-na-Donu Garrison 23 November 1942 - Question

Post by Minotauros » 24 Aug 2006 14:27

Hi!

What German units were stationed in the strategic town of Kalatch-na-Donu between 19 and 23 November 1942, before the Soviet troops overwhelmed them and closed the Stalingrad Cauldron ?

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Post by Jan-Hendrik » 24 Aug 2006 16:44

PzArt.16 seems to be the one to blame , at least according to our Stalingrad-expert Michi :

http://forum.panzer-archiv.de/viewtopic ... 662#101662

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Post by Minotauros » 25 Aug 2006 12:02

Thanks Jan-Hendrik, but I don't speak German...

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Post by Andreas » 25 Aug 2006 12:11

Also des mit einer Abteilung des Pz.Art.Rgt. 16 stimmt wirklich.
Dieser Abteilung ist es mehr oder weniger zu Verdanken, daß die Russen zur Don-Brücke bei Kalatsch gelangten.
Sie gingen kurz nördlich davon in Stellung; wurden von dortiger Flak-Batterie(RAD??) aufgefordert in die Kämpfe einzugreifen; jedoch brachte diese Abteilung keine Verbindung mit dem Regiment zusammen, und ohne Befehl von oben ging nichts.
In Richtung Sowjetski gelang ihnen noch die Flucht aus dem Kessel.
My translation:

STARTS
The story of a battalion of Pz.Art.Rgt. 16 is true. This battalion is more or less responsible for the Russians reaching the Don-Bridge at Kalatch. They went into position just north of it, and were asked by the AA battery (RAD??) [at the bridge] to intervene in the fighting. The battalion could however not get a connection to its regiment, and did not move without an order from above. They managed to escape from the encirclement in the direction of Sowyetski.
ENDS

This would indicate that the bridge was defended by a Reichsarbeitsdienst AA battery.

All the best

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Post by Yuri » 25 Aug 2006 18:04

Below the text of the message of the assistant to the commander 5 Tank Army of general - major Panfilov is offered, êîòðûé was in the ranks of 26 Tank Corps at the moment of capture of city the Kalach on November, 23, 1942. I shall remind, what exactly units 26 Tank Corps have grasped city the Kalach.
I place here the awful translation into English and the Russian original the text of the report of general - major Panfilov.
Who can provide adequate translation - I ask you execute this translation.
Enjoy taste of an epoch!

The autographic report of the assistant to the commander 5 Tank Army general - major Panfilov

Note: Sergeew a pseudonym the commander 5 Tank Army general - lieutenant P. L. Romanenko
general Rodin - a surname of the commander 26 Tank Corps
general Butkov - a surname of the commander 1 Tank Corps

CAMD RF
Fund 331 Inventory 5041 Business 29 Sheet 2, 3, 4, 5, 6
[the manuscript on sheets of a notebook of a small format]
State farm «Victory of October»
20.00 23/11/42 ã

To comrade Sergeew!

I report:

1. Rodin's units with fight to 16.0023/11/42 have completely cleared the Kalach of the opponent.
2. According to inhabitants the Kalach, ours POWs, captured Germans and personal observation - the opponent did not expect so prompt approach of our parts, is now disorganized and in a panic runs, throwing down to personal things.
In the Kalach other military property and equipment is left by the opponent up to 1500 motor vehicles and tractors and many. Fuel and lubricant up to 100 tone (the last is checked).
On a way from Perelazovskij up to Rozhdestvenskij corpses of the Romanian soldiers and officers and the broken tanks lay. From Rozhdestvenskij up to Kalach troupes of Germans. Area Berezovskij state farm «Victory of October», Kalach up to 100 padded before our tanks, many various instruments and other property. Trophy commands{teams} have started the account of property. In the Kalach remained up to 1500 person of ours POWs. the population trophies is urgently necessary input here on a place of special bodies of People's Commissariat of Internal Affairs for putting in order as units with this task will not consult, takes away (bread, meat, cattle and so on) under protection to take all is not possible as parts promptly go forward.

3. In our armies the big rise.
Losses in an equipment: tanks there were at Rodin now on the move 35 pieces of all marks, losses in people to establish I can not yet, but they rather small. Corps Rodin can be restored here completely, but it will need the help of army by spare parts and repair means. It is quite good? If to the Kalach has arrived for the organization of this affair ECHT. Repair of tanks due to other tanks is carried out.

4. Rodin now requires an ammunition and oils, on the account of fuel I shall establish on a place, what grades here are, then I shall inform. It is quite good, if you will help the army mobile reserve. Corps transport is chased in rear for delivery, but it, probably, will be late for 3-4 days because of distance.


4. Because of such overcast the Corps was not exposed to bombardment. Single planes flied, were quickly forced down by our antiaircraft guns. On my eyes it is brought down five planes of the opponent and one ours between Island and height 162,9. The pilot has planted the plane on the ground, having spoiled arms, ran, to find it was not possible.

5. The cases of action accepted by the commander:
a) The Kalach is appointed by the commandant whom 119 TBr Filipenko
b) Actions to strong deduction of area the Kalach and defenses, the basic ferry to the north the Kalach are planned
c) It is offered to special department to select urgently from former POWs - people for updating motor-infantry, people for repair of tanks, gathering a trophy, obvious traitors to shoot, suspicious to direct to rear for elimination.
d) The case organizes repair of tanks on a place in former German workshops available here besides the case has the fine mobile workshop seized in the Kalach.
e) By radio with you connections are not present. A task the corps has no further. The decision is accepted: Before reception of a task to borrow strong all-round defense and to conduct investigation in southeast both northeast and southwest directions.

6. With 4 TC I have communication. They have forwarded the basic forces through our ferry at the Kalach. All parts 4 TC on the left coast Don. Personally observed their ferry with the Deputy chief of a staff of 21 Armies. 4 TC has occupied Canes and one brigade at 16.00 has passed through the Kalach on a railway junction Soviet.

7. In 22.0023/11/42 from Butkov at me was the officer of communication who has reported (I inform in case at you with it connections are not present):
By an outcome 22/11/42:
159 TBr occupied Lysow,
89 TBr - Zraninskij
117 TBr - Pukhov
44 MRBr - Zraninskij
Staff of the case - Zraninskij
By an outcome 23/11/42 mouths 44 MRBr has seized Bol. Osinowka.
The case conducted fight for Nowomaksimiwskij, Rychkowskij

8. The data on the opponent:
In area the Kalach defended up to 3 sapper of battalions. Any No divisions to establish it was not possible. Probably, they here also are not present, in everyone cases, up to 23/11/42 inclusive. Under the indication our captured, as if 20 and 21/11 through the Kalach on the right coast of Don about 100 tanks were forwarded. In what direction they have left it is not known. There were they from under Stalingrad. The motor vehicles seized by us in the Kalach, as from under Stalingrad. In territory where have passed our parts, there were fine groups of the opponent.
According to the pilot who has been brought down in area state farm «Victory of October», he had the task to conduct investigation on the river Don from the Kalach up to Óñòü-Khoper and to bomb our fighting orders.
According to all available information the enemy did not expect so prompt exit to the Kalach of our parts, has lost management. Wire connection by us on a way of movement everywhere was torn. The aircraft, from for the foggy weather, given cannot give it, radio, probably, works as well as for us.

9. I have no the general orientation to front Stalingrad. I ask to inform as business by the mechanized corps.

10. I have sent you 5-6 reports. The last today has returned back as the officer of communication was afraid, having seen at Perelazovskij tanks of the opponent and has returned back. Has made to him the warning*. It is accepted to judge!

11. From you additional instructions did not receive.

12. I congratulate you on success.

g. m. [abbreviation from general-major] Panfilov

Staff of the Corps 24/11/42 from 12.00 in the Kalach
[the signature of general - major Panfilov]
* - in the original this place of the text is crossed out

The document has not been published earlier somewhere.
udachi / good luck
Yuri

Russian text

ÖÀÌÎ ÐÔ Ôîíä 331 Îïèñü 5041 Äåëî 29 Ëèñò 2,3,4,5,6
[ðóêîïèñü íà ëèñòêàõ áëîêíîòà íåáîëüøîãî ôîðìàòà]

Ñîâõîç «Ïîáåäà Îêòÿáðÿ»
20.00 23/11/42 ã

òîâàðèùó Ñåðãååâó!

Äîêëàäûâàþ:

1. ×àñòè Rodin ñ áîåì ê 16.00 23/11/42 ã. ïîëíîñòüþ î÷èñòèëè Êàëà÷ îò ïðîòèâíèêà.

2. Ïî äàííûì æèòåëåé Êàëà÷, íàøèõ âîåííîïëåííûõ, ïëåííûõ íåìöåâ è ëè÷íûì íàáëþäåíèåì — ïðîòèâíèê íå îæèäàë ñòîëü ñòðåìèòåëüíîãî íàñòóïëåíèÿ íàøèõ ÷àñòåé, ñåé÷àñ äåçîðãàíèçîâàí è â ïàíèêå áåæèò, áðîñàÿ âïëîòü äî ëè÷íûõ âåùåé.
 Êàëà÷å îñòàâëåíî ïðîòèâíèêîì äî 1500 àâòîìàøèí è òðàêòîðîâ è ìíîãî äðóãîãî âîåííîãî èìóùåñòâà è ñíàðÿæåíèÿ. Ãîðþ÷åãî è ñìàçî÷íûõ äî 100 òîí (ïîñëåäíåå ïðîâåðÿåòñÿ).
Ïóòü îò Ïåðåëàçîâñêîé äî Ðîæäåñòâåíñêîé óñåÿí òðóïàìè ðóìûíñêèõ ñîëäàò è îôèöåðîâ è ðàçáèòûìè òàíêàìè. Îò Ðîæäåñòâåíñêîé äî Êàëà÷ òðóïïû íåìöåâ. Ðàéîí Áåðåçîâñêèé, ñâõ. «Ïîáåäà Îêòÿáðÿ», Êàëà÷ äî 100 ïîäáèòûõ ðàíåå íàøèõ òàíêîâ, ìíîãî ðàçëè÷íûõ îðóäèé è äðóãîãî èìóùåñòâà. Òðîôåéíûå êîìàíäû ïðèñòóïèëè ê ó÷åòó èìóùåñòâà.  Êàëà÷ îñòàëîñü äî 1500 ÷åëîâåê íàøèõ âîåííîïëåííûõ. Ñðî÷íî íåîáõîäèìî ââîä ñþäà íà ìåñòî ñïåöèàëüíûõ îðãàíîâ ÍÊÂÄ äëÿ íàâåäåíèÿ ïîðÿäêà, òàê êàê åäèíèöû ñàìè ñ ýòîé çàäà÷åé íå ñïðàâÿòñÿ, íàñåëåíèå òðîôåè ðàñòàñêèâàåò (õëåá, ìÿñî, ñêîò è òàê äàëåå) âñåãî æå ïîä îõðàíó âçÿòü íå óäàåòñÿ òàê êàê ÷àñòè ñòðåìèòåëüíî èäóò âïåðåä.

3. Â íàøèõ âîéñêàõ áîëüøîé ïîäúåì.
Ïîòåðè â ìàò÷àñòè: òàíêîâ îñòàëîñü ó Rodin ñåé÷àñ íà õîäó 35 øòóê âñåõ ìàðîê, ïîòåðè â ëþäÿõ óñòàíîâèòü ïîêà íå ìîãó, íî îíè ñðàâíèòåëüíî íåáîëüøèå. Êîðïóñ Ðîäèíà ìîæíî âîññòàíîâèòü çäåñü ïîëíîñòüþ, íî äëÿ ýòîãî ïîòðåáóåòñÿ ïîìîùü àðìèè çàïàñíûìè ÷àñòÿìè è ðåìîíòíûìè ñðåäñòâàìè. Íåïëîõî åñëè áû â Êàëà÷ ïðèáûë äëÿ îðãàíèçàöèè ýòîãî äåëà ÝÕÒ. Ðåìîíò òàíêîâ çà ñ÷åò äðóãèõ òàíêîâ ïðîâîäèòñÿ.

4. Ðîäèí ñåé÷àñ íóæäàåòñÿ â áîåïðèïàñàõ è ìàñëàõ, íà ñ÷åò ãîðþ÷åãî óñòàíîâëþ íà ìåñòå êàêèå ñîðòà çäåñü åñòü, ïîñëå ÷åãî ñîîáùó. Íåïëîõî, åñëè âû ïîìîæåòå ñâîèì àðìåéñêèì ïîäâèæíûì ðåçåðâîì. Êîðïóñíîé òðàíñïîðò ãîíèì â òûë äëÿ ïîäâîçà, íî îí, âåðîÿòíî, çàäåðæèòñÿ íà 3-4 äíÿ èç-çà ðàññòîÿíèÿ.

4. Èç-çà òàêîé îáëà÷íîñòè êîðïóñ áîìáàðäèðîâêå íå ïîäâåðãàëñÿ. Ëåòàëè îäèíî÷íûå ñàìîëåòû, áûñòðî ñáèâàëèñü íàøèìè çåíèò÷èêàìè. Íà ìîèõ ãëàçàõ ñáèòî ïÿòü ñàìîëåòîâ ïðîòèâíèêà è îäèí íàø ìåæäó Îñòðîâîì è âûñîòîé 162,9. Ëåò÷èê ñàìîëåò ïðèçåìëèë, èñïîðòèâ âîîðóæåíèå, áåæàë, íàéòè íå óäàëîñü.

5. Ïðèíÿòûå êîìàíäèðîì êîðïóñà ìåðîïðèÿòèÿ:
à) Êîìåíäàíòîì Êàëà÷ íàçíà÷åí êîì 119 ÒÁð Ôèëèïåíêî
á) Íàìå÷åíû ìåðîïðèÿòèÿ ê ïðî÷íîìó óäåðæàíèþ ðàéîíà Êàëà÷ è îáîðîíû îñíîâíîé ïåðåïðàâû ñåâåðíåå Êàëà÷
â) Îñîáîìó îòäåëó ïðåäëîæåíî ñðî÷íî îòîáðàòü èç áûâøèõ âîåííîïëåííûõ - ëþäåé äëÿ ïîïîëíåíèÿ ìîòîïåõîòû, ëþäåé äëÿ ðåìîíòà òàíêîâ, ñáîðà òðîôåé, ÿâíûõ ïðåäàòåëåé ðàññòðåëÿòü, ïîäîçðèòåëüíûõ íàïðàâèòü â òûë äëÿ îòñåâà.
ã) Êîðïóñ îðãàíèçóåò ðåìîíò òàíêîâ íà ìåñòå â èìåþùèõñÿ çäåñü áûâøèõ íåìåöêèõ ìàñòåðñêèõ, êðîìå òîãî, êîðïóñ èìååò ïðåêðàñíóþ ïîäâèæíóþ ìàñòåðñêóþ, çàõâà÷åííóþ â Êàëà÷å.
ä) ïî ðàäèî ñ Âàìè ñâÿçè íåò. Äàëüíåéøèé çàäà÷è êîðïóñ íå èìååò. Ïðèíÿòî ðåøåíèå: Äî ïîëó÷åíèÿ çàäà÷è çàíÿòü ïðî÷íóþ êðóãîâóþ îáîðîíó è âåñòè ðàçâåäêó â þãî-âîñòî÷íîì è ñåâåðî-âîñòî÷íîì è þãî-çàïàäíîì íàïðàâëåíèÿõ.

6. Ñ 4 ÒÊ èìåþ ëîêòåâóþ ñâÿçü. Îíè îñíîâíûå ñèëû ïåðåïðàâèëè ÷åðåç íàøó ïåðåïðàâó ó Êàëà÷. Âñå ÷àñòè 4 ÒÊ íà ëåâîì áåðåãó Äîí. Ëè÷íî íàáëþäàë èõ ïåðåïðàâó ñ Çàìåñòèòåëåì íà÷àëüíèêà øòàáà 21Àðìèè. 4 ÒÊ çàíÿë Êàìûøè è îäíó áðèãàäó â 16.00 ïðîïóñòèë ÷åðåç Êàëà÷ íà æåëåçíîäîðîæíûé óçåë Ñîâåòñêèé.

7. â 22.00 23/11/42 îò Áóòêîâà ó ìåíÿ áûë îôèöåð ñâÿçè, êîòîðûé äîëîæèë (ñîîáùàþ, íà ñëó÷àé, åñëè ó Âàñ ñ íèì ñâÿçè íåò):
ê èñõîäó 22/11/42:
159 ÒÁð çàíèìàëà Ëûñîâ,
89 ÒÁð - Çðàíèíñêèé
117 ÒÁð - Ïóõîâ
44 ÌÑÁð - Çðàíèíñêèé
Øòàá êîðïóñà - Çðàíèíñêèé
Ê èñõîäó 23/11/42 ðîòà 44 ÌÑÁð îâëàäåëà Áîë. Îñèíîâêà.
Êîðïóñ âåë áîé çà Íîâîìàêñèìîâñêèé, Ðû÷êîâñêèé

8. Äàííûå î ïðîòèâíèêå:
â ðàéîíå Êàëà÷ îáîðîíÿëîñü äî 3-õ ñàïåðíûõ áàòàëüîíîâ. Íè îäíîãî No äèâèçèè óñòàíîâèòü íå óäàëîñü. Âåðîÿòíî, èõ çäåñü è íåò, âî âñÿêîì ñëó÷àè, äî 23/11/42 âêëþ÷èòåëüíî. Ïî ïîêàçàíèþ íàøèõ ïëåííûõ, áóäòî-áû 20 è 21 ÷åðåç Êàëà÷ íà ïðàâûé áåðåã Äîíà ïåðåïðàâèëîñü äî 100 òàíêîâ.  êàêîì íàïðàâëåíèè îíè óøëè íåèçâåñòíî. Øëè îíè èç-ïîä Ñòàëèíãðàäà. Àâòîìàøèíû, çàõâà÷åííûå íàìè â Êàëà÷, òàê æå èç-ïîä Ñòàëèíãðàäà. Íà òåððèòîðèè, ãäå ïðîøëè íàøè ÷àñòè, îñòàëèñü ìåëêèå ãðóïïû ïðîòèâíèêà.
Ïî äàííûì ëåò÷èêà, ñáèòîãî â ðàéîíå ñîâõîç «Ïîáåäà Îêòÿáðÿ», îí èìåë çàäàíèå âåñòè ðàçâåäêó ïî ðåêå Äîí îò Êàëà÷ äî Óñòü-Õîïåðà è áîìáèòü íàøè áîåâûå ïîðÿäêè.
Ïî âñåì äàííûì âðàã íå îæèäàë ñòîëü ñòðåìèòåëüíîãî âûõîäà ê Êàëà÷ íàøèõ ÷àñòåé, ïîòåðÿë óïðàâëåíèå. Ïðîâîäíàÿ ñâÿçü íàìè ïî ïóòè äâèæåíèÿ âñþäó ðâàëàñü. Àâèàöèÿ, èç çà òóìàííîé ïîãîäû, äàííûõ åìó äàòü íå ìîæåò, ðàäèî, âåðîÿòíî, ðàáîòàåò òàêæå êàê è ó íàñ.

9. Íå èìåþ îáùåé îðèåíòèðîâêè â Ñòàëèíãðàäñêîì ôðîíòå. Ïðîøó ñîîáùèòü êàê äåëî ìåõàíèçèðîâàííûì êîðïóñîì.

10. ß âàì ïîñëàë 5-6 äîíåñåíèé. Ïîñëåäíåå ñåãîäíÿ âåðíóëîñü îáðàòíî òàê êàê îôèöåð ñâÿçè ñòðóñèë, óâèäåâ ó Ïåðåëàçîâñêèé äâà òàíêà ïðîòèâíèêà è âåðíóëñÿ îáðàòíî. Ñäåëàë åìó ïðåäóïðåæäåíèå Ïðèíÿòî ñóäèòü!

11. Îò âàñ äîïîëíèòåëüíûõ óêàçàíèé íå ïîëó÷àë.

12. Ïîçäðàâëÿþ âàñ ñ óñïåõîì.

ã.ì. Ïàíôèëîâ

Øòàá êîðïóñà 24/11/42 ñ 12.00 â Êàëà÷
[ïîäïèñü ãåíåðàë-ìàéîðà Ïàíôèëîâà]

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Post by Yuri » 25 Aug 2006 18:45

Note: 10. .... Ñäåëàë åìó ïðåäóïðåæäåíèå ..

Ýòî ìåñòî â òåêñòå äîêóìåíòà çà÷¸ðêíóòî

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Post by Kim Sung » 27 Aug 2006 13:14

Yuri wrote:Below the text of the message of the assistant to the commander 5 Tank Army of general - major Panfilov is offered, êîòðûé was in the ranks of 26 Tank Corps at the moment of capture of city the Kalach on November, 23, 1942. I shall remind, what exactly units 26 Tank Corps have grasped city the Kalach.
Right. See the movement of the 26th Tank Corps in the Japanese map below.

* Image Source: スタ-リングラ-ド攻防戦 (The Battle of Stalingrad)

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Post by Yuri » 27 Aug 2006 15:51

Kim Sung wrote:
Yuri wrote:Below the text of the message of the assistant to the commander 5 Tank Army of general - major Panfilov is offered, êîòðûé was in the ranks of 26 Tank Corps at the moment of capture of city the Kalach on November, 23, 1942. I shall remind, what exactly units 26 Tank Corps have grasped city the Kalach.
Right. See the movement of the 26th Tank Corps in the Japanese map below.

* Image Source: スタ-リングラ-ド攻防戦 (The Battle of Stalingrad)

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It is a German map in the Japanese language. That is, Japanese have made a map using only German sources, and ignored Russian sources. In result a map (the phase 6) not correctly reflects a course of events. It is very a pity, but it is similar on German sources other same Japanese map (a phase 7) - "Battle for state farm No 79 " is made also. And is exact the same as on a map (a phase 6) the course of events in area between the rivers Chir and Don is incorrectly reflected, (the phase 7) not correctly reflects in a map - "Battle for state farm No 79".

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