Knight's Cross Holders Identification

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Postby JPK » 27 Dec 2006 14:30

Freiherr write
Caption said U178. Guy in front looked like Wilhelm Dommes? And RKT


The kommandant of U 178 was KsZ Klaus Ibbeken and the Korvettenkapitan Klaus Scholtz Ritterkreuztäager mit Eichenlaub (10.9.1942) was at the head of the 12th U-Flotillen at Borbeaux. Both on the picture

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Postby Elwyn W » 27 Dec 2006 17:01

Thank you, JPK.

U1.jpg second row -1st left, Reinhard König
U3.jpg third row: from left Thomsen, then Rösing

"U4.jpg" right hand side, Herbert Panknin?
U2.jpg second row - 1st right, looks like Thiele?


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Postby Denis » 27 Dec 2006 22:30

freiherr wrote:Image

Dönitz, a KzS and 7? RKT Kaleu's.
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Hello Freiherr
Here we go, from left to right :
Rösing, x, Dönitz, Zapp (hidden), Scholtz, Schulz, Winter, Lehmann-Willenbrock and Kuhnke. The photo was taken in Angers (Western France), Summer of 1943.
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Postby Denis » 27 Dec 2006 23:38

U1 :
from left to right, Karl Heinz Wiebe, x
2nd row : Reinahrd König then Jost Brökelmann

U2 :
2nd row : Kurt Loewer or Heinz Stamer

U3 :
the last picture depicts the EL bestowal ceremony to Rolf Thomsen by KzS Rösing in April 45.

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Postby herbert » 28 Dec 2006 10:03

Friedrich Guggenberger

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Georg Staats

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Postby herbert » 28 Dec 2006 10:07

Peter Erich Cremer

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Postby herbert » 28 Dec 2006 10:13

H i Freiherr,

the Commander is not Wilhelm Dommes, it is Hans Ibbeken, the RKT it Klaus Scholtz,
Chef 12. U-Flottille in Bordeaux

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Postby Elwyn W » 28 Dec 2006 20:41

Thank you, Herbert, for all the ID's.

Thank you, Denis, and welcome back. Hope you can spend more time with us next year. I misspoke... the pic with Dönitz were probably all RKT KKs, not Kaleu's. The first man on the extreme left must be Kals. Piening became a FlKmd much later than 1943, Sohler, his predecessor, had not RK.

Rösing was FdU West

Kals Kmd 2Fl Lorient
Zapp Kmd 3Fl La Rochelle
Scholtz Kmd 12Fl Bordeaux
Schulz Kmd 6Fl St Nazaire
Winter Kmd 1Fl Brest
Lehmann Kmd 9Fl Brest
Kuhnke Kmd 10Fl Lorient

As to Loewer or Stamer, I think it could be Stamer although I have no pic of him. The back of this pic had some very bad handwritting that looked like Stemmermann. Does anyone have a pic of Staemer to post? Scherzer does not have one and I have no Biblo for surface vessel RKTs.

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Postby Denis » 28 Dec 2006 21:42

freiherr wrote:Thank you, Herbert, for all the ID's.

Thank you, Denis, and welcome back. Hope you can spend more time with us next year. I misspoke... the pic with Dönitz were probably all RKT KKs, not Kaleu's. The first man on the extreme left must be Kals. Piening became a FlKmd much later than 1943, Sohler, his predecessor, had not RK.

Rösing was FdU West

Kals Kmd 2Fl Lorient
Zapp Kmd 3Fl La Rochelle
Scholtz Kmd 12Fl Bordeaux
Schulz Kmd 6Fl St Nazaire
Winter Kmd 1Fl Brest
Lehmann Kmd 9Fl Brest
Kuhnke Kmd 10Fl Lorient

As to Loewer or Stamer, I think it could be Stamer although I have no pic of him. The back of this pic had some very bad handwritting that looked like Stemmermann. Does anyone have a pic of Staemer to post? Scherzer does not have one and I have no Biblo for surface vessel RKTs.

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Hello Freiherr
Thanks for your kind words.
Here is Stamer coming from the Biblio Verlag book about Surface Fleet... I have personaly a preference for Loewer.


PS : What I have read ??? I can't believe that this book is not in your library....
Sad day, the end of a Myth....
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Postby Elwyn W » 29 Dec 2006 06:50

Hi Denis,

You are right. Looks like Loewer. Well, KM took a back seat after the remaining Stockerts and Obermaier and Patzwall and Dörr and Schultz, Wegmann & Zinke!!

OK, a few more....

AHF id :
Hellmuth Heye
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Eitel-Friedrich Kentrat
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Viktor Schütze
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Eitel-Friedrich Kentrat
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Herbert Kuppisch
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Erich Brauneis
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Nicolai Clausen
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Postby herbert » 29 Dec 2006 09:40

1 - 3 = Heye , Kentrat , Schütze

5 - 8 = Kentrat , Kuppisch , Brauneis , Clausen

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Postby Elwyn W » 29 Dec 2006 14:53

Thank you, Herbert. That was truely impressive.

As to the last one, the caption said U565, Sept 44 to Dec 44 from Saloniki to Germany. The commonly known RKT was the Kmd, Franken but it didn't look like him at all. And U565 did operate in the Aegean Sea but was scuttled so didn't make it back to German waters.

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Postby herbert » 29 Dec 2006 15:42

Hi Freiherr,

the last Komdt. U 565 was KL Fritz Henning (10.43 - 9.44). U 565 on 25.9. by air raid one had heavily damaged and one had sunk then.

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